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    Scottish Land Reform & Stalking

    Is my future Stalking lease in jeopardy??

    I refer to Devo Max being handed to Scotland, so will this have detrimental effect on leases and permission. Is the future looking bleak for Scottish Stalking and fishing???

    I have read recently articles written by Scottish country side alliance, Scottish BASC and various sporting land owners, all expressing their concerns relating to the SNP's Scottish land reform act.
    Last edited by Ben82; 11-01-2015 at 23:46.

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    As far as I can see, there are no imminent threats.

    Time will tell but there are no signs that deer stalking/game shooting is threatened, Unless you have too many deer or are shooting things that you shouldn't [but that's always been the case].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben82 View Post
    I refer to Devo Max being handed to Scotland

    Different topic obviously, but the inference we're being 'gifted' stuff by the hated Westminster machine could upset a few of us, you know

    As far as land reform goes though, I think it's long-overdue & can only be a good thing. High time the days of massive tracts of land being owned by private and foreign individuals come to an end. It won't negatively affect any shooting (in my view) as the revenue is too valuable. Of course landowners are going to be up in arm over it, their gravy train is about to become derailed. And don't forget the tax exemptions for estates was a Tory (spit) tactic to protect minority interests in the first place. Bring it on

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    The estates (which are mainly owned by offshore trusts, foreign oligarchs and large multinational holding companies) would like you all to believe that it will be a disaster - and would love us to be convinced that the SNP are planning some sort of Mugabe-esque land grab.

    Since it is uaually the case that most of our interests are very poorly served when we meekly adopt the atitudes peddled to us by oligarchs, I was instantly suspicious. Having read into it in some detail, my conclusion is that it can only be a good thing. At the very least, it will bring extra scrutiny to bear on the management of the land - which is currently done in the interests of a very, very small minority.

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    One area that the land reform proposals will affect is the continuation of tenancy after sale. This more aimed at residential tenants so that you are not booted out of your house / flat just because your landlord decides to sell. In effect you lease will survive along with all terms and conditions, just the name will change. Similar will be those who have a commercial lease with land or property, so to some extent this well benefit those with stalking leases - ie change can only happen if you break the terms of the lease or at the end of the lease.

    The UK is one of the few parts of the world where no residency requirement is needed to own property. Our property market is held up by investors by property as a capital asset and a safe haven for their funds. Long gone are the days when agricultural return can justify the cost of land, or indeed rental return the price of a house in most of our cities.

    over Christmas I got the grumbling from my father of why we only have a small flat in Edinburgh and wouldn't it be lovely if we got somewhere bigger. He was a civil engineer and earned a reasonable professional salary - say 70 to 100 k in today's terms and with that he was able to afford a four bedroom house with an acre of land in a rural location and to send three children through minor private schools, and get them into university. When I was at school, most other kids had similar backgrounds - good middle class. To do the same now you would need the thick end of 750,000 a year pre-tax.
    Last edited by Heym SR20; 12-01-2015 at 10:12.

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    Read this thread, I'm not so sure it will be a bed of roses as some have said on your thread....

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    If I 'won the lottery' I would not invest in a sporting estate in Scotland. I can think of easier ways to lose the dosh !
    The writing is on the wall of a Mugabe esque grab.
    Such a shame the independance vote was lost, especially with the current oil price !

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    No, it was won.
    "Don't say I didnae warn ye !"

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    Quote Originally Posted by private fraser View Post
    No, it was won.
    What? Even if you're English?
    You can't say muntjac without saying, Mmmmmm.

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    Not bovvered
    "Don't say I didnae warn ye !"

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