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    Deer Stalking UK FB page does it worry you and the future of our sport?

    Hi All

    A friend invited me a few weeks ago to join the UK Stalking FB page. Since then it's been very interesting to follow and understand people's views and opinions on stalking in the UK right now.

    Personally it worries me and I do wonder about the long term viability of our sport.

    The consensus seems that you must kill as many deer as possible per outing and of course boast and photo accordingly. In particular right now when Roe Does are at there most vulnerable people are knocking them off like rabbits. Killing seems the theme and not hunting as clearly no man and family on his own can consume the associated volume of venison.

    If someone asked me to predict the future of stalking in the UK on the basis of this FB page then it will be all over in 10 years as today's healthy population is slaughtered at the greed of man.

    As for being a group of informed individuals lets not even go there.

    So I would be interested on the views of SD readers on this FB page.

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    Thank God I'm happiest hunting ol' flicker tail with a 22 rimfire. Hornet occasionally.

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    I wasn't there long!

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    So it's not just me then. Rather too much machismo and too little knowledge, and if i never see another head shot deer on there it won't be too soon.
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    ‎Letter to the Times c1930 from a White Hunter given of an abhorrence for the increasing slaughter of African game by wealthy and without conscience Europeans:

    "And what may we make of the two Gentlemen who took to the bush in a motor car and shot 80 lions in one day all in the name of sport?"

    History has a habit of repeating itself if not in mirror most certainly deed.

    K ‎
    The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.

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    Jason I'm in agreement with you on most of what you say and I cringe with embarrassment to hear it vocalised. Personally I feel many are joining the sport just to kill deer and brag about it. That said there are relatively few stalkers and lots of deer by comparison. In most cases if you have the sole shooting rights over a sensible amount of land you will be shooting quite a few deer compared to the tag system in the states. Still doesn't make the attitude of this type of hunter right though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonH View Post
    The consensus seems that you must kill as many deer as possible per outing and of course boast and photo accordingly.
    It is worrying if that's how it comes across.... My average is 1 beast every 2 - 3 outings and that's enough venison in the freezer.
    Posing for photos is what we do when we are new to deerstalking, as a momento of your first or biggest etc. Once the novelty wears off we tend not to bother.
    I haven't seen the facebook page you are referring to but from what you say I'm sure that it is not a true representation of deerstalking in the UK, or at least I hope it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Si View Post
    It is worrying if that's how it comes across.... My average is 1 beast every 2 - 3 outings and that's enough venison in the freezer.
    Posing for photos is what we do when we are new to deerstalking, as a momento of your first or biggest etc. Once the novelty wears off we tend not to bother.
    I haven't seen the facebook page you are referring to but from what you say I'm sure that it is not a true representation of deerstalking in the UK, or at least I hope it's not.
    Si. Theres a difference between a trophy photo taken by a sportsman and a photo of a killing taken by someone who has little regard for what he has shot. I think this is the difference, or at least it is to me. DeerstalkingUK is the page that is being referred to I think.

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    There was/is a similar FB page related to stalking in Scotland, just loads of photos of dead animals, deer, foxes, rabbits,pigeons, crows etc etc. Nae clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonH View Post
    Hi All

    A friend invited me a few weeks ago to join the UK Stalking FB page. Since then it's been very interesting to follow and understand people's views and opinions on stalking in the UK right now.

    Personally it worries me and I do wonder about the long term viability of our sport.

    The consensus seems that you must kill as many deer as possible per outing and of course boast and photo accordingly. In particular right now when Roe Does are at there most vulnerable people are knocking them off like rabbits. Killing seems the theme and not hunting as clearly no man and family on his own can consume the associated volume of venison.

    If someone asked me to predict the future of stalking in the UK on the basis of this FB page then it will be all over in 10 years as today's healthy population is slaughtered at the greed of man.

    As for being a group of informed individuals lets not even go there.

    So I would be interested on the views of SD readers on this FB page.
    And don`t forget the `500+ yards I shot a buck, doe, fox, rabbit, crow etc etc..... from 500+ yards away gang.
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