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    New rifle recommendations?

    Hi all,

    Im off to the british shooting show on 13th and 14th feb, and ive got open .223 and .308 slots to fill. can only afford one rifle atm but need recommendations on what to buy, although i appreciate everyone has an opinion usually favouring their own rifle! Would prefer brand new btw

    I will be doing mostly target use for the moment until they are opened up for live quarry use which i estimate to be another 6 months to a year (Got FAC in September 2014), then i will be using it on foxes and hopefully one or two paid stalks per year.

    I would prefer wood stock but not too much of an issue at all, and need a scope, maybe a mod in the future but package deals may allow one now!

    Got a budget of about £1000 but may be able to stretch or buy scope and mod etc at a later date.

    I dont want to open a debate about whether .223 or .308 is better; rather which rifle and scope is better in said calibres!

    Ive got in mind a tikka t3 (at a push), weatherby vanguard series 2 RC and browing x-bolt but not sure which is better and why, and whether id be better off going for a cheaper rifle but more expensive scope/vice versa?

    Thanks in advance,

    Mitch
    Last edited by mitchiet123; 28-01-2015 at 19:18. Reason: To say i wanted brand new

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    Decide before you go if you are buying a rifle with your budget of a package. You'll get in a right pickle if you don't.

    That said isn't being excited and drawn to something you hadn't considered all part of what this great sport's about?

    Go with your heart. You've got plenty of years to buy with your head.

    K
    The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.

  3. #3
    Stick with T3 best rifle value for money out of the box

    There are better rifles but they cost much more money

    Dave

  4. #4
    My Personal opinion

    Yes I know you didn't want a calibre debate but for your budget

    you could tick both boxes with a .243 and a quality scope one rifle to do both

    or

    S/H 6x42 S&B and a S/H .308

    S/H variable and a S/H CZ .223 or .222 which would be cheaper

    Both these calibres shouldn't be a problem second hand as they are known to be good for thousands of rounds

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    You will have a job to beat a Tikka T3 for the money, it's usually very accurate, has a nice trigger and suffers with very few problems, you can't really go wrong with this rifle to be honest. I have a Sako 85 and a tikka T3, and in my opinion the T3 will get the job done almost as well.

    You will certainly struggle to get a new T3 and also get a new high quality scope for £1000, a little used second hand rifle would be a better bet if you have a fixed £1000 limit, if you can find one that is.

    With a £1000 budget I would try and get a higher quality second hand scope rather than going for a lesser quality new one though if I were you. Try to have a good look through a few scopes to compare the image quality. I recently looked through both a weaver and leupold scope out on the range, the image quality was poor in comparison to my Zeiss Duralyt to my eyes.... So much so that I struggled to see bullet strikes clearly on a white paper target at 100 yards with the 16 magnification weaver scope! the image quality was really milky.

    If you intend using the outfit for target work also as you say, then choose a scope with enough magnification for your needs, for example a 6 magnification scope would not be enough if you are target shooting out to 200 yards, something like a variable 3 - 12 mag scope would be much better. Beyond 200 yards 12 mag would probably be too limited for target shooting also.

    Good luck in finding your rifle/ scope combo.
    Last edited by paultap; 03-02-2015 at 22:42.

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    If your budget is limited and you want new.
    You could get a Howa .308 combo deal for that money,
    rifle scope mod bipod etc.
    .308 can be used for anything from foxes to Red stags.
    Yes its nice to have numerous top of the range rifles and scopes
    but if you cannot afford them get something you can and go shooting.

  7. #7
    Some excellent advice above, print it out and take it with you to the gun show.

    I just had a fellow, about 40 years old, come to me and ask about buying his first .308. He has been shooting inherited and other family rifles all his life, and wanted something new. After handling a Sako, a Tikka T3, a Winchester M70 Featherweight, older Rem M700, SHR 970, Sauer, and Steyr PH, and shooting some, he bought a T3 in walnut with a Bushnell Legend 3-9x40 with side parallax adjustment. He is tickled with the look, the feel, the way it shoots, and he has pride of ownership. And he stayed within his budget, under $800.

    Even if he someday buys a really expensive rifle, I bet he keeps this one. Stay within your budget. Don't try to buy the Be-All-and-End-All, first time. Just get something which is enough that you have no regrets, have confidence in it, and get on with shooting and hunting. Come away from the purchase thinking you will want to keep this rifle forever.

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    Stick with T3 best rifle value for money out of the box

    There are better rifles but they cost much more money
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by paultap View Post
    You will have a job to beat a Tikka T3 for the money, it's usually very accurate, has a nice trigger and suffers with very few problems, you can't really go wrong with this rifle to be honest. I have a Sako 85 and a tikka T3, and in my opinion the T3 will get the job done almost as well.

    You will certainly struggle to get a new T3 and also get a new high quality scope for £1000, a little used second hand rifle would be a better bet if you have a fixed £1000 limit, if you can find one that is.

    With a £1000 budget I would try and get a higher quality second hand scope rather than going for a lesser quality new one though if I were you. Try to have a good look through a few scopes to compare the image quality. I recently looked through both a weaver and leupold scope out on the range, the image quality was poor in comparison to my Zeiss Duralyt to my eyes.... So much so that you struggled to see bullet strikes clearly on a white paper target at 100 yards with the 16 magnification weaver scope! the image quality was really milky.

    If you intend using the outfit for target work also as you say, then choose a scope with enough magnification for your needs, for example a 6 magnification scope would not be enough if you are target shooting out to 200 yards, something like a variable 3 - 12 mag scope would be much better. Beyond 200 yards 12 mag would probably be too limited for target shooting also.

    Good luck in finding your rifle/ scope combo.
    thanks for the advice mate! Think I'm now gonna get rifle only for £1000 so have narrowed it to a fluted stainless browning xbolt, a varmint T3/super varmint, or the weatherby vanguard RC2 with the green and black tactical looking stock?
    Reason being I want the best rifle for my money, I'm not granted for a mod and I've got a bushnell elite 6500 2.5-16x42. Will handle a few at the shooting show anyway!!

    mitch

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    Keep an open mind on buying "previously loved"... There will be a good selection secondhand rifles there for you to fondle, and something might jump out at you.

    For £1,000 you'll easily get a mint Sako 75 in either calibre.

    Ok, it's an 85, but you get my point...:
    http://www.gunstar.co.uk/sako-85-st-.../rifles/742073

    But here's a 75...:
    http://www.gunstar.co.uk/sako-85-st-.../rifles/742073

    and in .223...:
    http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-...50114171427001
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