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Thread: How close is a complete ban on shooting?

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    How close is a complete ban on shooting?

    ANIMAL rights campaigners have vowed to continue disrupting grouse shooting on Ilkley Moor after councillors rejected their pleas to ban it.
    Members of Bradford Council’s executive committee today voted unanimously to allow the controversial shooting of grouse on the council-owned land to continue.
    The committee decided to ban the use of traps on the moor used to kill bird predators such as stoats, weasels and other small mammals.
    This was welcomed by campaign group Ban Bloodsports on Ilkley Moor which helped raise over 1,000 signatures in favour of a ban on grouse shooting.
    The council decision means that the Bingley Moor Partnership can continue running grouse shoots until 2018 when the current agreement expires.
    The Partnership pays the council £10,000 a year for the right to shoot grouse which partly funds the authority’s Countryside and Rights of Way service.
    Senior partner at the Partnership, Edward Bromet, said he was delighted with the decision to allow grouse shooting to continue.
    He said the other methods of pest control would be used to control predators.
    Some pests could be controlled with shooting, he said, while trapping could still be used off Ilkley Moor.
    Mr Bromet was critical of “extreme” elements of the anti grouse shooting campaign, saying they were “emotionally against shooting”.
    He suggested that their campaign may actually result in more shooting because of increased demand to control pests.
    “There’s an irony here. There is no logic to what they were trying to do.”
    He said the campaigners had “wasted” the time of the council in calling for a review.
    Mr Bromet said those who had opposed the shooting of grouse had previously committed aggravated at trespass on at least six shoots, in August last year, on Partnership land, although he said there had been no disruption to the shooting on Ilkley Moor.
    Members of the group Ban Bloodsports on Ilkley Moor were putting a brave face on the defeat.
    A spokesman said shooting and management activity on the moor had resulted in reduced biodiversity.
    Continuing shooting until 2018 would deplete grouse numbers, he said.
    “We condemn the decision to allow it to continue until 2018, given this will decimate the population of red grouse, an amber listed species awarded international protection.”
    The organisation vowed to step up its campaign and is expected to disrupt grouse shooting in August.
    The spokesman said today’s decision was the first step towards ending grouse shooting in 2018.
    “We raise concerns that the continuation of shooting itself will result in the depletion of the red grouse population of Ilkley Moor and fails to address conflicts with moor users.”
    He claimed allowing shooting on the moor was incompatible with the council’s obligation to allow open access.
    “We will return to City Hall to address this and intervene to prevent shoots from taking place during the 2015 season in order to uphold the 1906 Act.”
    The spokesman said that future disruption of shoots would take the form of “lawful direct action.”
    Supporters of Ban Bloodsports on Ilkley Moor took to its Facebook page to show their disappointment.
    One said: “They are named wildlife for a reason - not to be killed in their natural habitat.”
    Another said: “Without predator control they will struggle to get the numbers of grouse they need to make shooting viable. I suspect shooting will stop long before 2018.”
    https://www.justgiving.com/John-Slee/
    "He who kills sow with piglets empties the forest of boar" My neighbours dad on new years eve 2011.

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    Interested to note that grouse are rated amber, given the enormous bags being shot in recent years. Good luck to the lads at Ilkely/Bingley. I hope they have some great shooting but it must be a pain with sabs. I've only experienced it once and we managed to wind them up good style!

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    Ban grouse shooting and its management and see how long grouse stocks last. I would give it two years at most.

    Blackpowder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackpowder View Post
    Ban grouse shooting and its management and see how long grouse stocks last. I would give it two years at most.

    Blackpowder
    I totally agree,

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    is this just on coucil or government land Basil? Surely any ban would have to go through European parliment

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    They don`t care about Grouse numbers, they just don`t want shooting in any form.
    If the moor was barren but with no shooting, they would be happy.
    It`s nothing to do with animal welfare, it`s simply a hate of shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rake Aboot View Post
    They don`t care about Grouse numbers, they just don`t want shooting in any form.
    If the moor was barren but with no shooting, they would be happy.
    It`s nothing to do with animal welfare, it`s simply a hate of shooting.
    If they succeeded in banning Grouse shooting what form of shooting is next on the list?
    https://www.justgiving.com/John-Slee/
    "He who kills sow with piglets empties the forest of boar" My neighbours dad on new years eve 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howy308 View Post
    is this just on coucil or government land Basil? Surely any ban would have to go through European parliment
    That I could not say but any ban is bad news.
    https://www.justgiving.com/John-Slee/
    "He who kills sow with piglets empties the forest of boar" My neighbours dad on new years eve 2011.

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    Worrying times. I always get annoyed when things are referred to as being "council owned". That means WE own it. So I see no good reason why one user group should have more say over it's use than another. Until shooting is banned totally within the uk then we have as much right to go about our lawful activity as any other group.
    So I would be very worried if a council or government body were to prevent shooting on ground owned by the people as that would be the beginning of a total eradication of hunting within the country.

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    remember rent a crowd dont give a flying fish what the law decides unless its in their favour.they enjoy attacking people in their hoodies knowing theyl get away with it .by the time any police respond due to woefully inadequate funding in rural ruralshire theyre at home eating tofu n drinking meade.they have just publicly threatened violence against the shoot .will they be warned NO.will the police be able to come and monitor their activities NO.the accountants are in charge.the police know its wrong ,the council know its wrong but 13 years of P.C labour rubbish has reduced their powers and ability to act.

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