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barry thom

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Hi Guys, My local paper "The Galloway News" Has in today’s edition a court report on a man from Newcastle named Brian Weddell of Ninth Row, aged 51 who has plead guilty of recklessly firing a rifle near Dalry, he plead guilty by letter after he appeared on 12 June this year.
He discharged the rifle near Corriedoo from the A702 road from Dalry to Edinburgh, shooting and killing a roe deer, when there was a man stalking nearby he also admitted shooting the deer without permission and failing to comply with the terms of his firearms licence.
He also admitted driving without "L" plates and without supervision or insurance.
Sentencing was deferred to October 28 for Wendell to make a personal appearance.

I was wondering if this is the case that was debated in June?

Dry Powder.

Barry Thom
 
Barry,

sounds like a match mate,
be interested to see the outcome of that case.
he plead guilty by letter which could indicate a deal has been done so a lenient sentence may be given...

keep us informed mate

thanks f.
 
As in do not pass go, do not collect £200.00, but you might have one of those get out of jail cards!:rolleyes:

i would watch this space Fb, a guilty plea carries some weight.
large fine ban from driving possibility he may keep his Fac !!!

i would not be so hasty yet mate. wait till 28th,

f.
 
The scrote obviously doesnt take heed for the law so there should be no question about whether or not he keeps his FAC.. he souldnt even be allowed a driving licence!
 
The scrote obviously doesnt take heed for the law so there should be no question about whether or not he keeps his FAC.. he souldnt even be allowed a driving licence!

Agreed and i by no means support him keeping it, but the law can be funny sometimes.
Not in a humorous way either but he has plead guilty by letter which means as a rule of thumb a deal has been struck.
That said deal could be plead guilty and keep your firearms...... take a large fine.

Honest wait and see and i do hope i am wrong but he could be back shooting within the month.

f.
 
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His fine for the driving convictions will probably be a lot less than his insurance would have cost him anyway!:evil:
How can you give someone without a licence a driving ban that will bother them?:confused:
He wasn't bothered to have a licence in the first instance, so why would a ban bother him!:evil:
There is simply no deterant to crime any more!
I wonder how someone like that got a FAC in the first place? Blatant disregard for several laws should surely mean the removal of his FAC?:confused:
He should be given a custodial sentence, FAC (+SGC if applicable) removed, and banned from ever driving!
Scrote of the highest order!!:evil:
MS
 
A random question I know, but this individual was not driving a black coloured Ford Escort was he? I'm aware of a poacher (driving such a vehicle) around the Girvan area quite recently.
 
His fine for the driving convictions will probably be a lot less than his insurance would have cost him anyway!:evil:
How can you give someone without a licence a driving ban that will bother them?:confused:
He wasn't bothered to have a licence in the first instance, so why would a ban bother him!:evil:
There is simply no deterant to crime any more!
I wonder how someone like that got a FAC in the first place? Blatant disregard for several laws should surely mean the removal of his FAC?:confused:
He should be given a custodial sentence, FAC (+SGC if applicable) removed, and banned from ever driving!
Scrote of the highest order!!:evil:
MS

MS, from a legal point of view, driving while unlicensed is a much lesser offence than driving while banned. The former gets a small fine, the later gets suspended sentence at least, if not a custodial.

Driving while uninsured is a greater offence than driving without a license.

On the subject of the FAC, there should be no way he gets to keep it. Here in NI, the driving offences above would cost you the FAC, never mind the poaching/discharging a firearm from the highway.
 
Depends on how the court looks at it. Carrying a fire arm while committing an offence, Poaching, traffic offences, probably no game licence. It will be interesting (the original post does not show it ) but he may be transferred to high court for sentence, The letter may mean it will be dealt with at sheriff level thus reducing sentensing options.
Jim
 
I think the likelihood of him retaining his FAC is remote to none at all. With the fairly recent events involving firearms I feel certain that he will feel the full force of the law and may even incur a custodial sentence. It would take a very brave magistrate / judge to be anything but heavy handed in these circumstances, and the knock on will probably be felt in the penalties set for the lesser Road Traffic offences.

With regard to "doing a deal" by pleading guilty, that only happens on the TV, or maybe in a situation where turning "Queens Evidence" is of mutual benefit. I think you are getting confused with when a Police Officer will tell a suspect that pleading guilty will go better for them when it comes to court as the magistrate or judge tend to take a more lenient view with a guilty plea, which is often the case. This being so because a not guilty plea to an obvious guilty case does nothing more than waste the courts time and taxpayers money. Mind you, some petty criminals like to tell their pals that the only pleaded guilty because they did a deal, yeah right public enemy number one!

John
 
Not in a humorous way either but he has plead guilty by letter which means as a rule of thumb a deal has been struck.
That said deal could be plead guilty and keep your firearms...... take a large fine.

f.

Not necessarily so Frank. Hundreds of people plead guilty to minor offences (and some not so minor) by letter on a daily basis. Not saying this is by any means a list of minor offences but IMO all this guy is trying to do is to show that he has been caught red handed and now does not wish to waste Court time. He is hoping that the Court will take this into consideration in sentencing. In some instances an immediate guilty plea can reduce the sentence by a third. I have no doubt that he will loose his FAC/SGC and more than likely be banned and fined. I would assume that IF he does have a FAC he has no previous convictions.
 
Just noticed your post Jimbo. This case would never reach the High Court. Under Summary Justice a Sheriff can hand out 3 years. This guy ain't going to get 3 years.

Jayb, Deals are done in Courts the length and breadth of this country. The defence agent and the PF (in Scotland) always have wee meetings prior to a case entering the court room to discuss matters. A person up on say 6 charges could be offered a deal of pleading guilty to 4 and we will accept not guilty pleas to 2. It is now written into law that in some instances if a person immediately pleads guilty their sentence will be reduced by a third.
 
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I would assume that IF he does have a FAC he has no previous convictions.



as you know from your own experiences that does not mean this is the first time, just the first time he has been caught.

f.
 
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