6.5x57

6pt-sika

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I've messed with the 260 REM and 7mm-08 REM quite a bit . And the 7x57 and 6.5x55 quite a bit as well . Same can be said about the 257 Roberts , 6mm REM/244 REM and the 243 WIN .

Since I've been a little hung up on 6.5 mm's I kinda am intrested in making a 6.5x57 . Anyone here got one or anyone here used one ?

I cannot imagina why it wouldn't be a good deer killer with the Nosler 125 Partition or the Hornady 129 SST .
 
The 5.6x57 also intrests me . But rather then building one of those as it's done on the Continent I think I would rather just have a necked down 6mm REM or whats called over here a 224 TTH !

TTH is Texas Trophy Hunter , this would be a good one for the Nosler 60 grain Partition and 150 pound or less deer .
 
6pt, There is a member on the forum, although he no longer participates much, called Ecoman. He was head stalker on a West Coast estate in Scotland for many years. And for a lot of those he used a 6.5x57 made by Trevor Proctor. If you look up in the community pages and find his entry you could PM him. He is a delightful man who I am proud to call my friend, and I have never known anyone more willing to share his hard earned information.

I quite fancy an Ackleyized 6.5x55, although Ackley himself never did such a round I know people have used his theories abut straight walled cases and shoulder angles on the 6.5x55.

Simon
 
6.5 X 57 is almost identical to the 6.5 X 55. The actual case volumes and not the obvious case length!
 
The 5.6x57 also intrests me . But rather then building one of those as it's done on the Continent I think I would rather just have a necked down 6mm REM or whats called over here a 224 TTH !

TTH is Texas Trophy Hunter , this would be a good one for the Nosler 60 grain Partition and 150 pound or less deer .

6pt,
The Texas Trophy Hunter will be almostly identical to the 224 Clark, a very specialised cartridge primarily designed for long heavy bullets in the 80-90grn weight range and thus needing a 1:7 or 1:8 twist.
The kind of rotational speeds attained by the fast twist will probably vapourise 60grn bullets a few yards from the muzzle at the velocities the TTH is capable of.
To utilise the velocity available from the TTH's case capacity with a 60grn bullet you will need to go to the other end of the scale and fit a barrel of much slower twist at least a 1:14 or even a 1:16.
Either way there appears to be no middle ground with this cartridge and whatever way you look at it, it is an extreme cartridge in all ways.

Ian.
 
I've used an estate rifle in that caliber a couple of times but I'm afraid I can't tell you much about it other than it seemed very effective for not much recoil. I think it was firing 140 grn bt's. I know that Norman Clarke had quite a bit to do with it but I don't think he built it. If your struggeling for info I'll try and find out a bit more.

Jim
 
I own and use a Heym SR 21 in 6.5x57 and found it to be a superb performer. It is faster and flatter than the x55 and I think it is a great shame it is not as widely used in the UK as it is in Europe. Do not forget it is not a military round so can be used in France etc. I loved my little Tikka T3 6.5x55 and was to be very honest very unsure if I was doing the right thing in trading it in against the 6.5x57.
My first shot out of my Heym was a near 200yd shot onto a Fallow doe and the 6.5x57 dropped her on the spot this was a homeload using Vit N140 and Sierra 120grn spitzer bullet. The bullet went straight through after setting up and doing the required damage to heart and lungs.
I have found the x57 seems to like 120grn heads more than my Tikka x55 which worked best with 140grn but in all fairness that could just have been the rifle or me.
If you fancy the 6.5x57 it is accurate and sweet to shoot like the 6.5x55 only just a little bit better I feel, so go for it and dare to be different.
 
I have a Mauser M98 in 6.5x57. It has an old Hensoldt 4x scope on it and has a double trigger, which is the lightest trigger that I have pulled in my life. I have only used it on the range......................
 
hi 6pt I use a 5.6 x57 its a krico full stock nice rifle to use i use nosler 60g partitions in it it does a good job on roe north of the border and cwd here
 
As far I know, many hunters on the continent were not satisfied with the performance of the 6.5x57 (similar to 6.5x55) and therefore the
6.5x64 Brenneke was developed to fill the gap between 6.5x57 and 6.5x68. Another advantage was that some rifles could be opened
up to 6.5x64.
edi
 
The 5.6x57 also intrests me . But rather then building one of those as it's done on the Continent I think I would rather just have a necked down 6mm REM or whats called over here a 224 TTH !

TTH is Texas Trophy Hunter , this would be a good one for the Nosler 60 grain Partition and 150 pound or less deer .

Why pratt about altering cases etc when the 5.6X57 is available as a standard factory cartridge ?
In the bad old days of calibre restrictions in Eire we shot hundreds of Sika, Fallow, Reds and Hybrids with the 5.6X57 .
The RWS version has a MV of 3410 fps, ME of 1910 foot/pounds when using the 74 grain projectile.
Twist rate was about 1 in 9 inches I believe.

These figures equate approximately to those of the .243 Winchester which is available everywhere and at relatively low cost with a wide range of projectiles on offer.

Personally for shooting the larger Deer species I prefer something more powerful.
Why send a boy to a mans work, as when the chips are down remember Robert Ruarks famous statement `USE ENOUGH GUN.`

HWH.
 
Why pratt about altering cases etc when the 5.6X57 is available as a standard factory cartridge ?
In the bad old days of calibre restrictions in Eire we shot hundreds of Sika, Fallow, Reds and Hybrids with the 5.6X57 .
The RWS version has a MV of 3410 fps, ME of 1910 foot/pounds when using the 74 grain projectile.
Twist rate was about 1 in 9 inches I believe.

These figures equate approximately to those of the .243 Winchester which is available everywhere and at relatively low cost with a wide range of projectiles on offer.

Personally for shooting the larger Deer species I prefer something more powerful.
Why send a boy to a mans work, as when the chips are down remember Robert Ruarks famous statement `USE ENOUGH GUN.`

HWH.

I like the idea of the 224 TTH better then the 5.6x57 more because I've read the case necks on the 5.6x57 cases were a bit thick so you could chamber the adapters for 22LR and 22 MAG and hence it made top of the line accuracy a bit more difficult .

I'm quite aware that the 243 is most likely a better deer cartridge etc and yes I own any number of cartridges more suited to deer then a 5.6x57 . However this is something thats intrested me for quite awhile .While Rurak said use enough gun , WDM Bell used way less then most people would consider sane and he lived to talk and write about it !
 
Karamoja Bell shot elephants at a time when a brain shot at 35 yards was long range shooting hence much of his success.

HWH.

I am well aware of that fact . As much as it may surprise you I also have the ability to read just like yourself and do from time to time .

I also suspect that I've used a much broader spectrum of cartridges then most people in the UK or USA for that matter .

Quite frankly I don't see why you give me crap about wanting to use a 5.6x57/224 TTH to kill a deer and you at your own admissions say you killed a great number of animals with it yourself .
 
I am well aware of that fact . As much as it may surprise you I also have the ability to read just like yourself and do from time to time .

I also suspect that I've used a much broader spectrum of cartridges then most people in the UK or USA for that matter .

Quite frankly I don't see why you give me crap about wanting to use a 5.6x57/224 TTH to kill a deer and you at your own admissions say you killed a great number of animals with it yourself .

SIMPLE. The CRAP is of your own making !
Between 1972 and 1993 only .22 centrefires were permitted for Deer shooting in The Republic of Ireland and that was their perverse legislation.
It was not about ME using a pip-squeak by choice.
At that time I bought myself a 5.6X61 Vom Hofe Super Express which had a Muzzle Energy similar to that of a 7X57 and arguably was the most powerful centre-fire .22 in commercial production at that time.
[ Bullet used was the 77 grain Paraboloid Blei-Spitz Geshoss. ]
In 1993 the law changed and the ceiling was lifted to .270 so I bought a Carl Gustaf of that calibre for use over there.
Here in the UK and sometimes in Sweden I used my .30-06 Mauser Model 77 .

HWH.
 
I like the idea of the 224 TTH better then the 5.6x57 more because I've read the case necks on the 5.6x57 cases were a bit thick so you could chamber the adapters for 22LR and 22 MAG and hence it made top of the line accuracy a bit more difficult .

I'm quite aware that the 243 is most likely a better deer cartridge etc and yes I own any number of cartridges more suited to deer then a 5.6x57 . However this is something thats intrested me for quite awhile .While Rurak said use enough gun , WDM Bell used way less then most people would consider sane and he lived to talk and write about it !
I think you would be better off steering clear of the 5.6x57 because of the neck thickness. The factory load that Stag is refering to is a very good load for the cartridge size and is still used in Eire. Reloading the 5.6x57 seems to be very finicky. There are some fantastic 60-75gr bullets available for the 22's.
I would say, a 22 for deer only in the right hands.
edi
 
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