‘Middle Ground’ Culling Calibre

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Mungo said:
There is a very substantial difference between the slow 6.5s (x55, Creedmoor, x47) and the fast ones (PRC and 284).

If you’re ok with damage, the fast ones put things down with authority.
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Agreed

My 6.5x55 is a real killer with the long barrel and pokey home loads. It was built with the intentions of matching my old 25-06 for velocity and horsepower, in a more easy to feed calibre. The largest stag I ever culled, 140kg (old 6 pointer) went a handful of steps. 100g TTSX @3400fps standard H/L shot.

A potent 6.5 fits the bill Ben.
 
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.30-06 Sako Gamehead Pro 165gr ballistic tip. If in the right area very much "bang flop", never had a runner unless my aim has been off, and then all recovered. Trying the 6.5CM with the same round (140gr) on fallow, much the same but less damage. I prefer sacrificing a shoulder and having them dead.
 
Brave Echo Niner said:
Is it dead when it hits the ground though, like a high neck or head shot, or is it still conscious at that point. I would say the latter.

I am not alone in holding this view about low neck shots, as a very well regarded and arguably most knowledgable deer veterinarian in the country makes the same point when teaching about that shot placement.
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Was out last night.
Shot two cwd using a low neck impact point
Both dead within seconds of impact - ie still and lifeless, no kicking, etc
Shot using 85gn ballistic tip 243 out of my winny.

It’s all down to where you hit them and not what you hit them with!
 
Agree with others here. All centre fire deer legal calibres will put deer down and also all centre fire deer legal calibres are capable of runners. It’s the shooters issue most of the time. And I simply don’t believe it when someone says they’ve never had a runner with a certain “perfect deer rifle”. Like when someone says they have never missed 🤣
 
TringSaint said:
Was out last night.
Shot two cwd using a low neck impact point
Both dead within seconds of impact - ie still and lifeless, no kicking, etc
Shot using 85gn ballistic tip 243 out of my winny.

It’s all down to where you hit them and not what you hit them with!
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Nosler doesn’t produce an 85 grn Ballistic Tip to the best of my knowledge.

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@Brave Echo Niner the answer, I think, is to keep your 47 for roe stalking. The middle ground does not exist if required for a 600m follow up. As you well know, the 300wsm with 148gr yewtree is an emphatic killer of deer to the ranges you're discussing.

I love my 260rem but, whilst very capable out to 400m, I would not take it out of the cabinet knowing I may need to reach out to that distance with a 300wsm available.

Alternatively, keep your wsm for "middle distance" and buy something bigger for longer distance.
 
TringSaint said:
Who said nosler?
I use noslers in my swede (120gn) but in my 243 thy are hornady interbonds
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Different bullet. Poly tip doesn’t equate to ballistic tip by Nosler. CnC vs bonded. I love ballistic tips.
Biathlonjimmy said:
@Brave Echo Niner the answer, I think, is to keep your 47 for roe stalking. The middle ground does not exist if required for a 600m follow up. As you well know, the 300wsm with 148gr yewtree is an emphatic killer of deer to the ranges you're discussing.

I love my 260rem but, whilst very capable out to 400m, I would not take it out of the cabinet knowing I may need to reach out to that distance with a 300wsm available.

Alternatively, keep your wsm for "middle distance" and buy something bigger for longer distance.
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540 yards is my longest with the 260 using a 100gr NBT. Dropped in its tracks and twitched a couple of times and it was over. It’s more than capable and watching everything unfold through the scope without losing it during recoil is priceless. I was kneeling in the snow shooting off of some homemade shooting sticks.

If a 300WSM makes you warm inside go ahead and use it. I won’t talk anybody out of using what they like. I have a 7RM and rarely use it. I think it’s been 4 years or more since I shot it.
 
Down load the 300 to 30-06 velocity?

Worth trying through 6.5 Super X from Yew Tree, belive it's designed to expand a little more violently?
 
I love my 47 with a cabinet full of different calibres the 47 is my go to everytime if I’m going to be sub 400 if I go north of the boarder 223 for roe and the 300wsm out on open fell Andy’s last build for me was 284 win not tested on deer yet as it was built for paper but I’m thinking will be a very effective calibre for what your looking for once my 47 is shot out I’m thinking along the lines of 280 ai as a stalking all rounder
 
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