1st fox

mal mason

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Shot my first fox the other night with the CZ EBONY EDITION .223 first night out with it and he came into around 130yrds after the ducks and as he walked accross i just gave a short skweek he stopped and looked at me..then thud he dropped where he stood, i used norma 3.2 gram v-max hornady 50 grain, not used anything else yet but my rifle seems to like theese, when i got to him i couldnt find any dammage outside the body at first then i spotted a small entry hole just behind the front leg but no exit hole, i was supprised at this as it wasnt a massive distance ANY THOUGHTS GUYS on anything? like i said its my first fox and new to using .223 thanks for reading
 
Shot my first fox the other night with the CZ EBONY EDITION .223 first night out with it and he came into around 130yrds after the ducks and as he walked accross i just gave a short skweek he stopped and looked at me..then thud he dropped where he stood, i used norma 3.2 gram v-max hornady 50 grain, not used anything else yet but my rifle seems to like theese, when i got to him i couldnt find any dammage outside the body at first then i spotted a small entry hole just behind the front leg but no exit hole, i was supprised at this as it wasnt a massive distance ANY THOUGHTS GUYS on anything? like i said its my first fox and new to using .223 thanks for reading

Congratulations! on first fox and good clean kill, ducks saved from that one, watch out for its replacement which will probably be along soon.
 
Well done Mal...ref damage does it really matter if there is or is not much damage ? NO..one dead fox is all that matters...will get you out with me in few weeks when i get home.

Mick
 
your not seeing any damge because the bullet prob hasnt exited as basically blown up inside the fox and all of the energy has been dumped into the fox which is a good but please dont always think that this will happen every the bullet will at some point exit the fox so dont think that a fox is a good back stop also well done on your 1st fox
 
waterbed

i bet it felt like a water bed when you lifted it. some foxes shot with the 223 look like they have died in their sleep while other look like they have been run over. I dont get many rounds leaving fox at +150m but less than 100 most rounds exit , i use 60gr v-max in 223
 
yeh it did feel like it was a bit loose inside lol felt like it all droped to the head when i picked it up, oh and tamus even the next night he had another two ducks killed and he has been leaving dead ducks out and they have been taken, but did see a few badger about thinking they could be taking the dead duck as well??? mick defo get out when your back bell me, cheers guys i have been back but not seen much exept a couple of eyes at the top of the hill just sat in same place for a while arount 300yrds and wouldnt come any nearer wasnt really sure it was a fox or not but still couldnt take the shot unless he came down the hill for safety.
 
your not seeing any damge because the bullet prob hasnt exited as basically blown up inside the fox and all of the energy has been dumped into the fox which is a good but please dont always think that this will happen every the bullet will at some point exit the fox so dont think that a fox is a good back stop also well done on your 1st fox
Good advice there mate,congrats on the charlie the first of many Im sure,vmax explode inside them most of the time,sometimes especially shot with .22 hornet I struggle to find any external damage but they feel like a hot water bottle inside:-D
 
your not seeing any damge because the bullet prob hasnt exited as basically blown up inside the fox and all of the energy has been dumped into the fox which is a good but please dont always think that this will happen every the bullet will at some point exit the fox so dont think that a fox is a good back stop also well done on your 1st fox
In full agreement on this, sounds like the perfect result here, but take note as has been said, not all shots will result in no exit. Steve.
 
yeh i have been tought by the best when it comes to safety before i accuired my FAC steve, so i know all the do's and dont's, im no stranger to shooting as i picked my 1st air rifle up around 10yrs old and never gave it up and im 21 now ha ha or is it 45 any way thanks guys for the comments and happy hunting i love to get out more but its always raining in england
 
Just remembered one night , absolutely chucking it down, stair rods, happened along a pair locked together!, needless to say,............. the earth moved for them!:cool:
 
what about the rounds im using, does any one recommend anything different, mabe some one using a cz like mine and found a great round that suits that gun i dont know just trying to get some feed back on peoples ideas?
 
Mal, you need to be sure of the twist rate in your barrel first, then try a few bullets, such as 52 grain A max, V-max, Nosler BT's (40grain), soft nosed stuff too, but as you say the ones your using now seem ok?, what sort of groups you getting on paper? I have found the Vithavuori accuracy load to be just that, in two different rifles. Just noticed you are in Warrington area, plenty of us around you, reloading.
 
Welcome to the club!!

V max is the bullet to use, I use 60gns but my .223 is 1:8. Quite often no exit wound however at times it will look like the fox has been disenbowelled. You wont get any runners if you hit them in the boiler room.

If the current bullet is good for your rifle suggest you stick with it.

D
 
Good to read this thread, I use 40gn V max in my 222 for fox and 100 / 150 yds I rarely get an exit...I like the reference to a water bed!...And turns them to soup inside...Very effective round and as i am the compassionate type I find It funny also...:D
 
Shot my first fox the other night with the CZ EBONY EDITION .223 first night out with it and he came into around 130yrds after the ducks and as he walked accross i just gave a short skweek he stopped and looked at me..then thud he dropped where he stood, i used norma 3.2 gram v-max hornady 50 grain, not used anything else yet but my rifle seems to like theese, when i got to him i couldnt find any dammage outside the body at first then i spotted a small entry hole just behind the front leg but no exit hole, i was supprised at this as it wasnt a massive distance ANY THOUGHTS GUYS on anything? like i said its my first fox and new to using .223 thanks for reading

top set up, congrats.
 
will be the 1st of many with that 223. as the guys above has said not all bullets will stay in the body of the fox.
its better if they do imo. alot safer and dumps all the ftlb into him.

result is when you pick him up his insides are like soup ;)
 
Shot my first fox the other night with the CZ EBONY EDITION .223 first night out with it and he came into around 130yrds after the ducks and as he walked accross i just gave a short skweek he stopped and looked at me..then thud he dropped where he stood, i used norma 3.2 gram v-max hornady 50 grain, not used anything else yet but my rifle seems to like theese, when i got to him i couldnt find any dammage outside the body at first then i spotted a small entry hole just behind the front leg but no exit hole, i was supprised at this as it wasnt a massive distance ANY THOUGHTS GUYS on anything? like i said its my first fox and new to using .223 thanks for reading

Well done. Better that it stayed in, means all of teh energy and impact has absorbed in the fox and done as much damage as possible therefore killing it quickly and painlessly. What bulletsa re you using, looks liek you haev a good expanding round there that is doing what it should do. Also a possibility it may ahev hit a heavy bone.
 
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