.270 or .270 wsm

the scudd

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hi can anyone tell me what the main difference is between these two rounds. i,ve been offered a good deal on a 270wsm but i want to know is it going to be too much gun for shooting reds out to 200 yards.thanks
the scudd
 

Claret_Dabbler

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The WSM is a short fat case V the Win long slim case. WSM rifles should be on a short action rather than the WIN long action.

The WSM should have around 150fps (maybe 200fps) extra over the WIN.

Don't think it the WSM would be "too much" gun for a Red, but it is certainly enough gun.
 

ejg

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Maybe one round less in the mag for the fat WSM, therefore short action.
I made a stock for my friend recenly and put it on his new 270wsm. Verdict was that he thought it recoiled less than the normal 270Win and is very accurate. Nice flat shooting round. Go for it.
edi
 

dieseldan

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270

Go into your local gun shop and ask for some ammo for both rifles.

or

Go ask rthe local Ranger ar keeper what he shoots

Re-inventing the wheel seems to be a pastime on here.
 

8x57

Distinguished Member
I may be totally off track but seem to recall reading recently that some short magnum calibres are being discontinued by the manufacturers, could be that some research is required?
 

The Mole

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Re: 270

dieseldan said:
Re-inventing the wheel seems to be a pastime on here.

Spot on!

I wouldn't bet on all these 'new' calibres being around for too long - but in years to come you'll still be able to walk into a gun shop and find ammo in all the standards like .243, .308, 30-06, .270 - even 6.5x55 :D
They have lasted because they do what they say on the tin.
 

8x57

Distinguished Member
Mole,
most of the calibres that you mention have been around an awful long time why? Because they work!
They may not be the sexiest anymore but they are available in any good gunshop in pretty much the world over, or at least the components are.
Given the choice between .270win or .270wsm my choice would be the 70 year old round. It will be interesting to see if the wsm version will be around in 10 years time, never mind in 70 years.
It will also be interesting to see if any of these short magnums develop a reputation as barrel burners, there being "no such thing as a free lunch".
 

bambislayer

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I thought about changing from 270win to 270wsm a few years back and didn't because of the reasons listed before.

ammo costs more
less rounds in mag
dificulty in getting ammo
It's just another fad!

Love it or hate it , its hard to beat a 270win .
 

8x57

Distinguished Member
I would be happy to use any of the calibres that Mole mentioned.
As said in previous forums by far more experienced shooters than me, it's where you put it that counts. There are dozens of suitable calibres (with the right bullet), I really can't understand why shooters get so hung up on calibre and even argue over "the Best" or most suitable calibre for a given task.
 

the scudd

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thanks for the input fellas but the problem is now solved, my dealer has got me a 270w it will be here by the weekend.
cheers
 

ejg

Well-Known Member
Re: 270

dieseldan said:
Go into your local gun shop and ask for some ammo for both rifles.

or

Go ask rthe local Ranger ar keeper what he shoots

Re-inventing the wheel seems to be a pastime on here.

Re-inventing? this is called developement. Some developements are steps backward but some are forwards. Without this developement we would not even have blackpowder to stuff into the front of a gun.
If you are so against developement would you prefer a hospital from the thirties compared to a modern one if you where seriously ill??

270 win compared to a 270wsm is not a huge difference. Performance about the same. One just fits in a short action, that might be the improvement. Would they have both been introduced at the same time who knows which one would have been the winner.

Anyway the initial question was that scudd had been offered a good deal on a wsm rifle and therefore asked.

edi
 

enfieldspares

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The only beneficial development of the 270 would have been to shorten it to use in more modern actions with more modern powders. But that's already near enough been done. It uses, OK, a slightly larger bullet, and is called the 7mm-08.

The 270 WSM is really quite pointless. Especially as you can get the same performance by using an "improved" version of the standard 270 the 270AI or the 270 Gibbs.

One less round to gain what? Nothing that makes great difference. Why? Because there just isn't the WIDELY AVAILABLE range of bullets for the 270 over and above 160 grains to gain anything. And, in any case, again in these 160 grain plus weights nothing that the 280 Remington or 7x64 can't do better at less cost.

I use a standard 270. In fact I've two. I think that you've made a wise decision to reject the WSM chambering.
 
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