28 Nosler

Canadian1

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Overbore rubbish catering to the petrolheads of the firearms world, just like the .26 Nosler.

If you can't gauge distance/holdover for sane hunting ranges with your standard 6.5s, 7x57/64, .308/.30-06 or .270, then take up a new hobby.

The above does not apply to target shooters. :lol:
 

pietasvenatores

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I suspect 300 rounds will see a re-barrel. However, it's great to see companies continuing to expand on the caliber/chambering ranges available, there's no reason not to..well, apart from the fact that the 7mm Mauser already exists and will never be beaten..matched with the 300&H of course and a .222 for smaller stuff, ok add 416 Rigby for the tough fella's....

Or, do as Hemmingway, and just take them all with a 30-06 including Rhino!
 

Muir

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Couldn't be bothered to own one. Ever notice that the only way 'new' cartridges appear it to just make them bigger? gets boring after a while.~Muir
 

Canadian1

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Couldn't be bothered to own one. Ever notice that the only way 'new' cartridges appear it to just make them bigger? gets boring after a while.~Muir
If you already have cartridges that are well thought out and balanced (i.e. designed well), what next? Make them bigger and longer. Then what? Make them shorter and fatter. Then what? Make them obscenely large?
 

Muir

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If you already have cartridges that are well thought out and balanced (i.e. designed well), what next? Make them bigger and longer. Then what? Make them shorter and fatter. Then what? Make them obscenely large?
Yup. And all to appeal to a guy who, in all likelihood, would need a months practice to be able to hit the ground aiming between his feet. ~Muir
 

Druid

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if you already have cartridges that are well thought out and balanced (i.e. Designed well), what next? Make them bigger and longer. Then what? Make them shorter and fatter. Then what? Make them obscenely large?
wssm?
 

Southern

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Another 7mm STW. What is the point?
Long range hunting? Is that hunting, even if you are capable of making the shot? To make an ethical shot at any range, you have to be able to hit a 6 inch spot every time under field conditions. If you need more power at ranges under 300 yards, you don't need more velocity, you need larger diameter and heavier bullets, not marginally flatter trajectories.
 

VIGILAIRE

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Another 7mm STW. What is the point?
Long range hunting? Is that hunting, even if you are capable of making the shot? To make an ethical shot at any range, you have to be able to hit a 6 inch spot every time under field conditions. If you need more power at ranges under 300 yards, you don't need more velocity, you need larger diameter and heavier bullets, not marginally flatter trajectories.
+1
 

Canadian1

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Another 7mm STW. What is the point?
Long range hunting? Is that hunting, even if you are capable of making the shot? To make an ethical shot at any range, you have to be able to hit a 6 inch spot every time under field conditions. If you need more power at ranges under 300 yards, you don't need more velocity, you need larger diameter and heavier bullets, not marginally flatter trajectories.
Try telling that to the cult of high velocity.

I agree with you though.
 

Southern

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High velocity cartridges are like high speed automobiles: you need to be able to drive them in order to use them. And the guy who just got his driver's license is most infatuated with a Ferrari or Porsche Turbo, though he would only get killed if God were not so wise as to make them unaffordable to him.

Horsepower never made up for lack of driving ability.

With a 1 MOA rifle, to hit a 6 inch spot ( the heart ),
at 100 yards, requires the ability to hold 5 MOA,
at 200 yards, hold 2 MOA
at 300 yards, hold 1 MOA
at 400 yards, hold 1/2 MOA
No need to go further, already beyond the capability of most hunters, from a bench or bipod on the range, much less a shot at unsure range in a breeze.
 

swarovski

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Another 7mm STW. What is the point?
Long range hunting? Is that hunting, even if you are capable of making the shot? To make an ethical shot at any range, you have to be able to hit a 6 inch spot every time under field conditions. If you need more power at ranges under 300 yards, you don't need more velocity, you need larger diameter and heavier bullets, not marginally flatter trajectories.
y ep big diameter bullets will do it, thats why a 308 will flatten deer better than any 6.5 cal simples.....
 

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