.375 H&H Mag condition on FAC?

[Mark.308]

Hi

I have just had my FAC returned having asked for a .375 H&H (going to Africa next year...) the conditions! Does any one have advise or experience in the following; can only use fmj to zero on ranges. It does not allow for the purchase of expanding ammo/bullets.
​Can understand no can use on game in this country but I hand load and explained this to feo in his visit. Do I arrive in Africa and re zero with ammo available? I will be shooting/hunting with local hunters not a pH again explained to feo and a letter confirming this from government of that country (friends in high places!!)

Is this normal or just an over site in producing cert?

Many thanks

 

[Apache]

I'm not into ballistics or bullets but I have a 9.3X74R double rifle. That's not a lot smaller than the .375 and I have it open for boar and deer in this country. Expanding ammo etc.

Did you ask for it to be conditioned for deer?

 

[srvet]

Worth checking the ACPO guidance, I seem to remember that they are mentioned as being suitable for large deer where good reason has already been established (eg for big game abroad)
I could be wrong!!

 

[Amhuinnsuidhe]

Mine has similar conditions, I can buy expanding ammo but may only zero in this country with solids. Not on my ticket for use in this country as I already have a .300 Win Mag.

 

[Frank Homes]

Mark

You'll only get expanding if you have somewhere to use it on deer or boar in the UK and you can provide good reason for its use . If if it's for overseas use only the law does not allow you to purchase or possess it. Amuinnsuidhe i'm surprised they have allowed your possession.

​Frank

 

[deerstalker.308]

I had similar conditions initially, but I questioned it and quoted the home office guidelines as mentioned above about "once suitable reason to possess has been established, this calibre may be suitable for use on UK deer species...."
I had to show that I had good safe land in the uk for it, the flat lands of east Anglia did not suffice, but regular stalking in Scotland and Wales did. It is now open for AOLQ.
if you can't do this, then you will be limited to purchasing expanding ammo out there and zeroing on arrival.

 

[375 mag]

Ask for it to be used on deer in this country as well, then you can use it and practice to your hearts content before you go !

 

[JabaliHunter]

Hi

I have just had my FAC returned having asked for a .375 H&H (going to Africa next year...) the conditions! Does any one have advise or experience in the following; can only use fmj to zero on ranges. It does not allow for the purchase of expanding ammo/bullets.
​Can understand no can use on game in this country but I hand load and explained this to feo in his visit. Do I arrive in Africa and re zero with ammo available? I will be shooting/hunting with local hunters not a pH again explained to feo and a letter confirming this from government of that country (friends in high places!!)

Is this normal or just an over site in producing cert?

Many thanks

Its pretty typical. At least you can be sure that your friends in Africa should have no problem obtaining suitable .375 ammunition for you to use there and in the meantime you can load and practice here with FMJ. Its not impossible to obtain an expanding ammo condition here - but as others have said you have to provide a good "UK" reason and it will help if you already have an open certificate.

 

[The tramp]

I had no problem in getting my 444 conditioned for deer and aolq with expanding ammo for use in the uk, local RFD was gobsmacked when he saw my ticket.
Used it on a roe today, little too much damage for my liking though, as in an exit of 5.5" and no lungs or heart left at all, so I think I'll use the 243 next time

Pete

 

[PeteL]

I have a similar condition on my ticket for the 416 Weatherby. I use GS Custom FN (flat nose) bullets which are not designed to expand so there is no restriction on their possession, just as any other solid. They appear to produce as much of a wound channel as expanding bullets and are very effective on Cape Buff and Elephant and would probably be fine on smaller animals also. Not cheap, though.
Peter

 

[Mark.308]

Thanks for all your responses much appreciated. I have a .308 and a 30-06 that I use in Scotland for deer saying I want to use a .375 as well......

Will look at the Home Office Guidance and a chat with my FEO.

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[Cumbrian 1]

Mine is allowed for vermin, fox and deer control with expanding ammunition, initially it was only allowed for a named range but on renewal they added the wording.

 

[MJ75]

Thanks for all your responses much appreciated. I have a .308 and a 30-06 that I use in Scotland for deer saying I want to use a .375 as well......

Will look at the Home Office Guidance and a chat with my FEO.

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This subject has been discussed several times before on here. You'd be best searching the legal matters sub forum for a lot more info.
I'm in a similar position to you, I can have a .375 no problem at all as long as I have proof of a booking from a PH or similar justifying it. But would only be allowed FMJ ammo for zeroing here. The HO guidance does indeed state that deer can be added, however as I already have a .30-06 Derbyshire refuse to add .deer on any .375 I may want because of that. They did say if I lost the .30-06 and could prove I was after stags here in Scotland etc then it might be granted.

I did discuss the issue with BASC when I used to be a member, but alas they were unable to offer any help. Have a look through the legal section and you can read a lot more about it.

 

[Pirate hunter]

I can use mine for ALQ, in fact I've just been practicing on rabbits.

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[deerstalker.308]

I can use mine for ALQ, in fact I've just been practicing on rabbits.

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Expensive bunny bashing! I thought i was bad shooting a muntjac with mine!!