A Cautionary Tale of Gun Safety.

(I am nearly 87 and have cancer so don't go telling me I am an idle git for using my 40-year-old Land Rover as a high seat).
Anyway, last Saturday I got into position by a Suffolk footpath on fairly open farm land, fields the size of airports and flat as a pancake, and, whilst standing up in the roof hatch started to scan with the thermal.
The time was five past five am and, although deer shooting legal timewise, the light was only just coming up.
No deer in sight but there were two squarish white blobs way over the far side of the next field. These were also on a footpath and about one third of a mile away.
My first thought was that the farmer, or one of his workers, had dumped something out there.
Scanning around and around through 360 degrees, you can't do that in a normal high seat very often, I kept passing over these two squarish white blobs.
Then, on one pass, one of the blobs moved a bit. This caught my attention, could they be two deer after all? Maybe muntjac or CWD having a kip? I was tempted to have a shufty through the scope but refrained and got my binos out.
Thank the gods that I did because it turned out to be two people, both women I think, sitting on two folding chairs, wrapped up in blankets and with balaclavas and woolly hats, armed with flasks etc, and staring at the soon-to-be rising sun. It was now ten past five am and just 2 degrees centigrade with a fairly brisk wind, although they were in the lee of a substantial hedge.
They stayed there for the next hour or more and apart from fidgeting with the blankets in the freshening wind, never moved a muscle.
In front of them was a vast expanse of winter wheat, then a hedge, then another similar field. It was not much above freezing with an increasing wind and the skies were clear blue after it got light. Apart from the sun, nothing else was moving, so maybe sunrise was why they were there. They certainly weren't studying the wildlife because, apart from a couple of hares, there wasn't any.
This area is remote Suffolk farmland. Acres and acres of it. The position of the 'picnickers' was remote in the extreme. The footpath is hardly ever used and doesn't really go anywhere.
Just before six thirty a local bloke came striding along the path that I was parked by. We exchanged the usual pleasantries, and he complained that the munties were ravaging his garden, again, and he walked off in the direction of the two white blobs. I did ask him to give the blobs my regards.

Lesson is that we must never point a rifle, as I very nearly did, at an unidentified white blob. Binoculars still have their uses.
 
On the flip side this post also highlights how a thermal around your neck is another layer of safety when out shooting.
Hypothetically if a deer presented in the foreground the OP could have taken a shot unaware of the pair in the background.
Very true Sir.
 
Only a matter of time until someone gets shot with a thermal scope, thinking it’s a deer or fox etc. then we will have a ban on thermals in the UK. Watch it happen
I doubt it.

If you can’t tell the difference between a human and a deer/fox through a thermal, you probably can’t tell the difference through glass in daylight.

I think the highest risk was people shooting at eye shine with lamps. The odd accident did happen, and they never got banned.
 
I doubt it.

If you can’t tell the difference between a human and a deer/fox through a thermal, you probably can’t tell the difference through glass in daylight.

I think the highest risk was people shooting at eye shine with lamps. The odd accident did happen, and they never got banned.
You’d be surprised what a human crawling into a tent on all fours looks like through a thermal! All you see (if the tent is cold), is the four legged beast. With low res thermals, or in slight damp or mist, this can create some deer or fox like impressions in the minds of those ‘hoping’ to see deer or fox for example.

I hope it never happens as well, but I’m watching cautiously from the sidelines! A patch of wet grass/reeds or bracken that a bullet can fly through relatively easily, can 100% cover a hikers tent a short distance behind it - put a fox on the other side.

I reckon thermal fir spotting and lamp or digital for shooting, if one must
 
(I am nearly 87 and have cancer so don't go telling me I am an idle git for using my 40-year-old Land Rover as a high seat).
Anyway, last Saturday I got into position by a Suffolk footpath on fairly open farm land, fields the size of airports and flat as a pancake, and, whilst standing up in the roof hatch started to scan with the thermal.
The time was five past five am and, although deer shooting legal timewise, the light was only just coming up.
No deer in sight but there were two squarish white blobs way over the far side of the next field. These were also on a footpath and about one third of a mile away.
My first thought was that the farmer, or one of his workers, had dumped something out there.
Scanning around and around through 360 degrees, you can't do that in a normal high seat very often, I kept passing over these two squarish white blobs.
Then, on one pass, one of the blobs moved a bit. This caught my attention, could they be two deer after all? Maybe muntjac or CWD having a kip? I was tempted to have a shufty through the scope but refrained and got my binos out.
Thank the gods that I did because it turned out to be two people, both women I think, sitting on two folding chairs, wrapped up in blankets and with balaclavas and woolly hats, armed with flasks etc, and staring at the soon-to-be rising sun. It was now ten past five am and just 2 degrees centigrade with a fairly brisk wind, although they were in the lee of a substantial hedge.
They stayed there for the next hour or more and apart from fidgeting with the blankets in the freshening wind, never moved a muscle.
In front of them was a vast expanse of winter wheat, then a hedge, then another similar field. It was not much above freezing with an increasing wind and the skies were clear blue after it got light. Apart from the sun, nothing else was moving, so maybe sunrise was why they were there. They certainly weren't studying the wildlife because, apart from a couple of hares, there wasn't any.
This area is remote Suffolk farmland. Acres and acres of it. The position of the 'picnickers' was remote in the extreme. The footpath is hardly ever used and doesn't really go anywhere.
Just before six thirty a local bloke came striding along the path that I was parked by. We exchanged the usual pleasantries, and he complained that the munties were ravaging his garden, again, and he walked off in the direction of the two white blobs. I did ask him to give the blobs my regards.

Lesson is that we must never point a rifle, as I very nearly did, at an unidentified white blob. Binoculars still have their uses.

Antis watching you?

maximus otter
 
Antis watching you?

maximus otter
Well the only one who knew where I was going, apart from me, was my partner. I am the only one who stalks the area, and it is not the only area I visit. I would think the chances of that are small. From where they were, they couldn't see any of my actions or what, potentially, I was shooting at. We have never had serious troubles with antis in the past.
I would still put my money on sun worshippers.
 
Well the only one who knew where I was going, apart from me, was my partner. I am the only one who stalks the area, and it is not the only area I visit. I would think the chances of that are small. From where they were, they couldn't see any of my actions or what, potentially, I was shooting at. We have never had serious troubles with antis in the past.
I would still put my money on sun worshippers.
Dawn on the equinox?

Makes sense.
 
(I am nearly 87 and have cancer so don't go telling me I am an idle git for using my 40-year-old Land Rover as a high seat).
Anyway, last Saturday I got into position by a Suffolk footpath on fairly open farm land, fields the size of airports and flat as a pancake, and, whilst standing up in the roof hatch started to scan with the thermal.
The time was five past five am and, although deer shooting legal timewise, the light was only just coming up.
No deer in sight but there were two squarish white blobs way over the far side of the next field. These were also on a footpath and about one third of a mile away.
My first thought was that the farmer, or one of his workers, had dumped something out there.
Scanning around and around through 360 degrees, you can't do that in a normal high seat very often, I kept passing over these two squarish white blobs.
Then, on one pass, one of the blobs moved a bit. This caught my attention, could they be two deer after all? Maybe muntjac or CWD having a kip? I was tempted to have a shufty through the scope but refrained and got my binos out.
Thank the gods that I did because it turned out to be two people, both women I think, sitting on two folding chairs, wrapped up in blankets and with balaclavas and woolly hats, armed with flasks etc, and staring at the soon-to-be rising sun. It was now ten past five am and just 2 degrees centigrade with a fairly brisk wind, although they were in the lee of a substantial hedge.
They stayed there for the next hour or more and apart from fidgeting with the blankets in the freshening wind, never moved a muscle.
In front of them was a vast expanse of winter wheat, then a hedge, then another similar field. It was not much above freezing with an increasing wind and the skies were clear blue after it got light. Apart from the sun, nothing else was moving, so maybe sunrise was why they were there. They certainly weren't studying the wildlife because, apart from a couple of hares, there wasn't any.
This area is remote Suffolk farmland. Acres and acres of it. The position of the 'picnickers' was remote in the extreme. The footpath is hardly ever used and doesn't really go anywhere.
Just before six thirty a local bloke came striding along the path that I was parked by. We exchanged the usual pleasantries, and he complained that the munties were ravaging his garden, again, and he walked off in the direction of the two white blobs. I did ask him to give the blobs my regards.

Lesson is that we must never point a rifle, as I very nearly did, at an unidentified white blob. Binoculars still have their uses.
I was out with a bloke I shared a golf course permission with lamping (remember that!) rabbits. Picked up 2 people on bikes with the thermal, he proceeded to light them up with his gun mounted torch. I never went out with him again!!
 
(I am nearly 87 and have cancer so don't go telling me I am an idle git for using my 40-year-old Land Rover as a high seat).
Anyway, last Saturday I got into position by a Suffolk footpath on fairly open farm land, fields the size of airports and flat as a pancake, and, whilst standing up in the roof hatch started to scan with the thermal.
The time was five past five am and, although deer shooting legal timewise, the light was only just coming up.
No deer in sight but there were two squarish white blobs way over the far side of the next field. These were also on a footpath and about one third of a mile away.
My first thought was that the farmer, or one of his workers, had dumped something out there.
Scanning around and around through 360 degrees, you can't do that in a normal high seat very often, I kept passing over these two squarish white blobs.
Then, on one pass, one of the blobs moved a bit. This caught my attention, could they be two deer after all? Maybe muntjac or CWD having a kip? I was tempted to have a shufty through the scope but refrained and got my binos out.
Thank the gods that I did because it turned out to be two people, both women I think, sitting on two folding chairs, wrapped up in blankets and with balaclavas and woolly hats, armed with flasks etc, and staring at the soon-to-be rising sun. It was now ten past five am and just 2 degrees centigrade with a fairly brisk wind, although they were in the lee of a substantial hedge.
They stayed there for the next hour or more and apart from fidgeting with the blankets in the freshening wind, never moved a muscle.
In front of them was a vast expanse of winter wheat, then a hedge, then another similar field. It was not much above freezing with an increasing wind and the skies were clear blue after it got light. Apart from the sun, nothing else was moving, so maybe sunrise was why they were there. They certainly weren't studying the wildlife because, apart from a couple of hares, there wasn't any.
This area is remote Suffolk farmland. Acres and acres of it. The position of the 'picnickers' was remote in the extreme. The footpath is hardly ever used and doesn't really go anywhere.
Just before six thirty a local bloke came striding along the path that I was parked by. We exchanged the usual pleasantries, and he complained that the munties were ravaging his garden, again, and he walked off in the direction of the two white blobs. I did ask him to give the blobs my regards.

Lesson is that we must never point a rifle, as I very nearly did, at an unidentified white blob. Binoculars still have their uses.
Thanks for sharing, this is a timely reminder to act and be safe at all times.
 
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