I believe three of four were members but whether they still are I don't know but I will find out.Quick questions and my views.
Are those affected by the police actions members of BASC? If they are, is there evidence that suggests they are not being supported?
If insurance is so cheap, can we not buy the legal cover directly ourselves? I do agree that BASC could offer this as an option [as could the other groups].
Is the magazine necessary? not really and could be done electronically.
However, I can talk from my experience and they have been supporting in my queries with the law and it's interpretation. I can also say that they have been very busy with other issues [of which I do not know the details].
And constant selling (nagging) of how wonderful steel shot is, even if you end up with bulged barrels.Funny enough that is what I have been thinking. Lots of ads and articles for wealthy shoots and expensive kits for pheasant syndicates. I have been thinking that for a while now. Nb. I am not a basc basher.
Hence a good argument to bring back appropriate insurance cover but also how to react to Police....But the real undemocratic issue is that if you have your guns and certificates taken, there is no real way to have that independently reviewed without incurring big solicitors' fees, leaving the poor subject no way to challenge anything. That just isn't natural justice. It's a poor do when the only thing you can do is a video with the Fieldsports Channel.
The CPSA give legal cover but only for shotgun shooting / shotgun related scenarios.Which out of all the organisations give this kind of insurance FOC please ?
Hi, thanks for the reply, thats interesting then as surely someone is missing a trick.The CPSA give legal cover but only for shotgun shooting / shotgun related scenarios.
Gunplan are an insurance company and can supply comprehensive insurance package to the shooter of all disciplines, but do nothing for shooting as a sport.
The NGO and the BDS do not appear to offer legal cover with their membership fee.
If the magazine makes money then there is no rationale to get rid of it as it raises fund which otherwise would have to come through membership subscriptions.Basc will never drop the magazine as they get paid for adverts . Members should vote to keep the magazine or insurance cover .
I vote for insurance cover.
But those profits go into the coffers which pay for everything they do (whether people think they do a good job or not) so the magazine is a net contributor to the cause, which is surely a good thing.Not much point for us, if they want to be librarians / booksellers then.
were the people involved BASC members or members of any other organization ? and if so did they ask for any help in getting there guns back and what help was offered .Of course the point you make is valid however I am in possession of three incidents of people I personally know where the Police have acted beyond reason using intimidation and threats. The outcome of two of them was that their licences and guns have been returned because there was no case to answer, the third (a son of one of them) is having his licence returned. The father and son incident originated from an anti and her mother which triggered the overreaction of the Police. Of course there is more but please don't expect me to supply names and addresses!
A fourth case very local to me was the arrest and confiscation of a persons guns due to the friend of the daughter reporting him as threatening his wife. I know the wife well and the husband and although they are now divorced the incident never happened and the girl who reported it admitted she may have overreacted, of course she never got into trouble did she.
All we need is robust advise on how to deal with a situation when Police arrive on your doorstep and a membership insurance cover available to take on the legal burden.