Any one use a ATN PS22

[WAYNE DAVIES]

As the title says does anyone use a ATN PS22.

I used one a few years ago and really liked it just wondered if any one has used one for a while and if its still working OK.

Wayne

 

[Eric the Red]

Nothing wrong with the life of the units I am aware of Wayne - all seem to hold up pretty well. Are you just checking how long they last or something else?

 

[jay 22]

I would go for the pvs 14

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

Eric thanks for your reply, reliability really I suppose before forking out 2k.

Jay I want a front mounted unit as it will sit on my .375H&H "pig rig" ,we use a Kite and a Pulsar digisight but neither are very user friendly with glasses and heavy recoil hence I want a front mounted which I can take on and off without messing around zeroing.
I don't need any fantastic performance as it will be mostly used for highseat work on boar.

Any other options????? anyone.

Cheers

Wayne

 

[Eric the Red]

Eric thanks for your reply, reliability really I suppose before forking out 2k.

Jay I want a front mounted unit as it will sit on my .375H&H "pig rig" ,we use a Kite and a Pulsar digisight but neither are very user friendly with glasses and heavy recoil hence I want a front mounted which I can take on and off without messing around zeroing.
I don't need any fantastic performance as it will be mostly used for highseat work on boar.

Any other options????? anyone.

Cheers

Wayne

Wayne, several options. The new little Pulsar dedicated scope at £400 (if you can source one), the Pulsar DFA at around £1300 as a front mounted option, - or - consider NVG's which are small enough to use with the normal scope, assuming you have good eye relief on the scope on your 375......(!!)

PS22 is, as far as I know, still only available as a Gen2+ in the UK, so you may want to consider the price v quality aspect there.

If you want to go the whole hog (oops, sorry) - the get a Starlight Longbow - well worth the money and the best of both worlds - at a price.

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

Cheers Eric I guess the £400 one you mean the Yukon photon to be honest I would have probably purchased one to try if I could have got one the eye relief looks plenty and the quality is probably enough for my requirements.

I aint sticking nothing on the back of my existing scope It gets a bit close sometimes when you forget and crawl up the stock.

I looked at the Dfa but I think I read you have to zero this unit ( I might be wrong ) I want something I can take on and off pretty quick.

Thanks again

Wayne

 

[AnthonyR]

PVS-14 will not handle the recoil of a 375 H&H anyway.

You need to be very careful about your tube specs for use on a rifle like that, it will be too much for lots of commercial NV kit.


I have tried out a PS-22 and was not impressed quite a restricted field of view and I have read about lots of zero problems as well although the one I tried was accurate to within about 1 MOA which I think is what they were claiming at the time but still disappointing when the rifle I tried it on was capable of sub 1/2 MOA. As has been said as well the best ones in the UK are only gen 2+ and will need lots of IR to get to a decent distance.

I have tried lots of add-on systems over the years and have never been happy with any of them, dedicated scope is the way forward for me, I use a dedicated rifle as well but you can swap with decent mounts etc

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

Hi Anthony
My .375 has a huge moderator so that should bring the recoil down to maybe a un moderated .30 cal so its not too harsh.

I only want it for close range work on boar so it does not have to be fantastic just easy and quick to use but still maintaining my eye relief.

I have a Pulsar digisight 550 which is more than good enough with an IR in fact its good enough for what I want with the standard IR but I'm not happy with my head position and eye relief on my bigger rifles.
I have a MAK picatinny qr mount for the Blaser 375 so maybe I'll try a Photon when they arrive and might be enough for me and the eye relief looks quite good in the spec.

Thanks

Wayne

 

[AnthonyR]

Moderators don't improve the ability of tubed NV to withstand recoil, they can actually make it worse.

I don't understand the physics but it is a relatively well established effect. I am sure a quick Google will turn up the answers for you.

Night Vision Gear will be introducing a new front in-line digital add-on next year might be worth waiting for that.

 

[Finny]

Tey seeme to have a lot of poi shift from zero as I remember but with enough it nothin wron with the princiable

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

Ahh well cheer guys I'll have to stick with the moon.

Wayne

 

[Eric the Red]

Tey seeme to have a lot of poi shift from zero as I remember but with enough it nothin wron with the princiable

While I hear this is a concern with the DFA, the design of the PS22 is different and does not suffer in the same way. They are snapped on and off quite regularly as are TI units of similar design with no serious effects.

@Wayne - have you considered TI? Drop me a PM and perhaps we can arrange for you to see some.

 

[Penyard]

Hi Wayne, got one with a photensis gen 2+ tube and really like it. Use it on .243, 7-08, .308 and .30-06 using the clamp attachment. Supplier advised to use rail rather than clamp for anything with more recoil than .308 but this is easily achieved. Not sure about the moderator = more recoil theory, mine reduces it significantly. Give me a shout if ou want a play with mine.

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

Hi Wayne, got one with a photensis gen 2+ tube and really like it. Use it on .243, 7-08, .308 and .30-06 using the clamp attachment. Supplier advised to use rail rather than clamp for anything with more recoil than .308 but this is easily achieved. Not sure about the moderator = more recoil theory, mine reduces it significantly. Give me a shout if ou want a play with mine.

Penyard that's the best offer I've had all week

I'll give you a shout when work calms down a bit more

Thanks

Wayne

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

While I hear this is a concern with the DFA, the design of the PS22 is different and does not suffer in the same way. They are snapped on and off quite regularly as are TI units of similar design with no serious effects.

@Wayne - have you considered TI? Drop me a PM and perhaps we can arrange for you to see some.

Thanks Eric TI would be very nice but a bit hard to justify for a few nights a year whacking boar thanks for the offer maybe have a brew one day if were stalking in the same county.

Cheers

Wayne

 

[Bebronamas]

As the title says does anyone use a ATN PS22.

I used one a few years ago and really liked it just wondered if any one has used one for a while and if its still working OK.

Wayne

dont like it due to:
- max magnification of scope is 5x. Use all the way up to 15x with other models ( pvs 14, nightlux mono III etc)
-gives aiming error 1 MOA-5 MOA depending... U can trim the unit, but than u can not removers and optics is night time use only
- the whole idea of devise is tactical for automatic gun, max aiming distance 50 m. Many advertised features points to that, like submersible, autogating.
- need to raise optics high from barrel , to enable mounting due to objective side being huge. Dedal has no problem with that.

as long as I am not planing to dive with my Heym, or enter anyone's house and be afraid the light may be on ( usually I hunt elsewhere) it is absolutely not useful for me.

 

[Bebronamas]

Forgot to add - heavy! From memory 850 grams or more. If in combination with old fashion diod IR, clamps etc total weight is over 1 kg!!. Pvs 14, nightlux Mono is 350 grams only.
i know people were using on WM , rifle Blaser, optics Zeis... And they broke optics clamp. Only later it appeared that Blaser has in house secret clamp rating 1450 grams max for recoil. It is very much Ok for optics alone. The combination of everything flew away...
Rail mounting for optics is a must. I could talk for hours, it is not for hunting, it is purely military and tactical usage.. And it is good unit for that.

 

[Penyard]

Forgot to add - heavy! From memory 850 grams or more. If in combination with old fashion diod IR, clamps etc total weight is over 1 kg!!. Pvs 14, nightlux Mono is 350 grams only.
i know people were using on WM , rifle Blaser, optics Zeis... And they broke optics clamp. Only later it appeared that Blaser has in house secret clamp rating 1450 grams max for recoil. It is very much Ok for optics alone. The combination of everything flew away...
Rail mounting for optics is a must. I could talk for hours, it is not for hunting, it is purely military and tactical usage.. And it is good unit for that.

Funny that, I've shot countless boar, foxes and various with mine and really quite like it and much prefer it to anything digital. Each to their own.....