Anyone having problems deer poachers?

starsky

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I live on glos/Herefordshire borders and a lot of the land I stalk is in Herefordshire. Unfortunately there seems to be some real problems lately with people poaching deer at night. There was even a bit on the inside out tv program about police trying to stop this. Just wondered if anyone else noticed increase in this lately. I'm pretty sure they've been on my land as I normally see fallow most times I go on my land and neighbouring land but haven't seen any at all recently.
 

sikadog

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I rent a patch of ground in the South Lakes, 9 months ago it was full of deer, now there are very few and they have gone nocturnal.

The keeper was taken off 9 months ago, I go up and park and watch 3-4 pickups with guys in, wearing cammo, drive by at walking pace most times I am there.
 

NickyA

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My brother does a fair amount of his stalking in Herefordshire and is really struggling with poachers, personally I'd favour night vision and a massive windscreen sticker that is virtually impossible to peel off with POACHER ALERT printed on it whacked straight across the windscreen and then reporting them to the police, they'll still be there when the police arrive!

It's been done in Russia with people using the pavement as a shortcut http://fb-54.dailymegabyte.com/scumbag-dri...t-deserve/
 

swarovski

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Then that would be criminal damage, you would be in more trouble than them :doh:, you know that the law is an ass
 

NickyA

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Would it? It isn't impossible to remove, just a massive inconvenience, then in the meantime if plod turn up through an anonymous tip off and find a boot full of venison! I know the law is an ass, but its just a big parking ticket :)
 

rick6point5

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Glassed a couple of lads on a walk over a perm at beginning of week, no camo no gun and not dog in sight at the time but they were looking for something, just over an hour n half later saw the same 2 plus another get out of a small van in a gateway other end of the same ground still no dog, still looked normal in civvies, & they left, defo suspicious but nothing else, then on a last walk about to re position a camera, I saw 2 dogs moving up a hedge but not on my perm, waited and glassed them to get a better look, 1 deerhound cross of some sorts and a beddlington, they looked knackered and tounges out, caught up with them at a break in the hedge line, they had been running for sure, and looked like they had been in a tussle a bit muddy and sweated up. I thought about taking them but figured not.
What can you do other than try as been suggested to set them up for a fall, this was late afternoon early evening so not even bothered about being seen. Get's on my tits they are so blatant.
 

tozzybum

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got a phone call from a m8 asking if me n me pals were enjoying our pigeon shooting .wtf i said im here on me tod .he says well theres a white van parked near your volvo.goes for a stroll well now sir if it isnt 3 young travelling chaps with their dags .the land owner loves his hare,s <beyond off limits>.soon as i rang n told im he want ballistic and ring the old bill.mm whilst advising them that the police were on the way they agreed to get lost their DA turns up in his ford ranger with no front or rear number plate:banghead:.so nowt to give the police .i ring n the farmer passes on the info to the police who arrived 3 hours later to say theres no one there:doh:
 

nun_hunter

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Would it? It isn't impossible to remove, just a massive inconvenience, then in the meantime if plod turn up through an anonymous tip off and find a boot full of venison! I know the law is an ass, but its just a big parking ticket :)
The university I was at years ago did this if you parked against their regulations. Sheet of A4 glued on and took hours of scraping to get it off. Possibly non permenant criminal damage but I never heard of anyone reporting it and I highly doubt the police would follow it up.

This is would be quicker and less likely to get you in trouble than letting their tyres down.
 

Flyer4u0

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Have to be careful of criminal damage charges if you do anything to their motors. Anything you do may have to be justified!.....
 

rick6point5

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I know we need to be very mindful of the law and all that etc, but would'nt it be great to be able to respond exactly the way they would....take their dog's for yourself, beat the living daylights out of them & their mates with the threat of violence & damage to their family & property if the old bill got involved, nick the motor go to their yard take a trailer a few quads and a mini digger, and then go for a pint with your mates knowing there will be no repercussions at all for your actions...

Then I woke up & realized that in reality unless i am a complete criminal c**t with moral & physical disregard for almost everything, i would get knicked & pay the price for being upstanding in my community....It's fubar...
 

rodp

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You have to play by their rules, which are. Don't be seen or heard, do whatever it takes, have no scruples.
That will work every time :thumb:

Not as I'm condoning anything underhand of course.:evil:
 

Yoda

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Yes big problems down here. But it will never be stopped. The police can't do anything about it:cuckoo: because of the way our illegal system works.
You daren't do anything yourself as they will set fire to your property (a frequent thing).
Until organised vigilante groups run the country side they will have free run everywhere

Not that I would condone that, obviously !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

The fourth Horseman

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You have to play by their rules, which are. Don't be seen or heard, do whatever it takes, have no scruples.
That will work every time :thumb:

Not as I'm condoning anything underhand of course.:evil:
+1 Been there done that many years ago, with some help from Special and Select friends. Very similar to the Snatch but whole camp disappeared in two days.:stir:
 

artschool

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My brother does a fair amount of his stalking in Herefordshire and is really struggling with poachers, personally I'd favour night vision and a massive windscreen sticker that is virtually impossible to peel off with POACHER ALERT printed on it whacked straight across the windscreen and then reporting them to the police, they'll still be there when the police arrive!

It's been done in Russia with people using the pavement as a shortcut http://fb-54.dailymegabyte.com/scumbag-dri...t-deserve/
stop a douchebag videos are a cracking good watch.
 

teyhan1

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Reminds me of a place and people I know on the west coast of Ireland.
They had some sheep rustling going on so set up a militia. They kept watch and when they knew they had them the whole team were called in.
Needless to say they were caught and roughly handled. However, they were then taken into the mountains blindfolded and into some old caves.
They were subjected to a little psycological terror for a couple of days and then released.
Needless to say, they have never returned.
 

rodp

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Am I right in thinking if you ring 999 and say you've been shot at then the police have to turn up in a given time?

I suppose if some poacher stood on a branch in the dead of night it could sound very much like a gunshot to someone in fear of his well being :rolleyes:
 

The fourth Horseman

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Am I right in thinking if you ring 999 and say you've been shot at then the police have to turn up in a given time?

I suppose if some poacher stood on a branch in the dead of night it could sound very much like a gunshot to someone in fear of his well being :rolleyes:
Very sneaky, they may turn up with an armed response unit in a couple of hours. Most of these scum don't like big silent dogs in the dark, works well if thry are on foot.Dobes usually run quiet, better as a pair.
 

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