Assisted dying
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Rake Aboot
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The prick probably thinks he can tax it .
I agree it needs discussion but the current clown has nowt to take credit for .
Margot McDonald was at the forefront of this discussion and it was always going to happen
It’s a delicate balance but it’s something that needs to be introduced
I agree it needs discussion but the current clown has nowt to take credit for .
Margot McDonald was at the forefront of this discussion and it was always going to happen
It’s a delicate balance but it’s something that needs to be introduced
Flash G 74
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Hello, Watch out in the Budget they maybe a new Death Tax !!!!!
perhaps he could be pesuaded to accept a free sample
Rake Aboot
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If dignitas buy him a house , he’s in !
Cumbrian 1
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As long as it comes with a fully stocked wardrobe
Free wooden overcoat offered for each customer to sign up?
The Assisted Dying Bill (2015), introduced by the Labour MP Rob Marris, was subject to a free vote. David Cameron was PM.
And the worst thing this week was our "Health Secretary" (sic) , Neil Gray, took the the biggest cop out ever seen by trying to avoid a vote and debate by saying it was beyond the remit of Holyrood - which is utter tripe - but I feel he's been leaned on by some of the nay sayers and rolled over......
As you say, Margot McDonald will be spinning in her grave at the continued delay!
The problem with assisted dying is that there will always be some mercenary relatives eager to make someone go quicker for their own ends. Let's face it, there's that doctor in the news today who tried to poison his mother's partner to try and get her dosh when she pops her clogs. They exist!
So I am in favour of assisted dying in principle, but the checks and safeguards would, I believe have to be very stringent.
So I am in favour of assisted dying in principle, but the checks and safeguards would, I believe have to be very stringent.
thorneyglatt
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I bet you're someone's elderly relative !
Having seen both parents die within the last 5 years I agonise over the idea of assisted dying becoming legal.
On the one hand I sat alongside my father in his last few days, thinking that if it had been one of our dogs I would have called the vet and had them euthanised. However on the other I also recognise how easy it could be for someone to be pressurised into taking the same action with regards to a relative who is not actually close to death.
Reading of the experiences in Canada since they passed their Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID) laws should raise some warning flags for our legislators. Sadly I feel they will, once again, ignore the opportunity to learn and instead be swayed by the advice of well-meaning activists.
When one reads of how the law in Canada has been reinterpreted and expanded, piece by piece, it is really quite frightening - a classic example of the “boiling frog” approach:
www.theguardian.com
Looking at what has happened in the UK, from the number of abortions carried out each year to how treatment for minors with puberty blockers became normalised, it is quite clear that any legalisation regarding assisted dying is highly likely to be manipulated if not abused. From being a choice that the individual makes for themselves when of sound mind, the law will gradually be reinterpreted to allow assisted dying to prevent “suffering” - not just of the patient themselves but of those around them. My concern is that assisted dying will evolve from being used near end-of-life to then include long-term diseases and disabilities, both physical and mental.
Despite the entreaties that “it will never happen”, I have no doubts that we will see activists, unscrupulous physicians and ill-meaning relatives use assisted dying - whether directly or indirectly - as a means to get rid of “problems”. It may also be used as a means to reduce funding for palliative care, as why spend money making the end of someone’s life comfortable when a quick injection will save all that cost?
My fear is that any safeguards built into the law will gradually be relaxed, as society becomes accustomed to the idea that assisting someone to die is perfectly acceptable.
I certainly don’t envy the individual MP’s having to make the choice over which way to vote. I hope they will take the time to carefully consider the implications of assisted dying, rather than just listening to the advice of celebrity activists, as they are literally making a life or death decision that will affect all of society in the future.
On the one hand I sat alongside my father in his last few days, thinking that if it had been one of our dogs I would have called the vet and had them euthanised. However on the other I also recognise how easy it could be for someone to be pressurised into taking the same action with regards to a relative who is not actually close to death.
Reading of the experiences in Canada since they passed their Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID) laws should raise some warning flags for our legislators. Sadly I feel they will, once again, ignore the opportunity to learn and instead be swayed by the advice of well-meaning activists.
When one reads of how the law in Canada has been reinterpreted and expanded, piece by piece, it is really quite frightening - a classic example of the “boiling frog” approach:
Canada’s assisted dying laws in spotlight as expansion paused again
Canada has one of the highest rates of euthanasia in the world, with 4.1% of deaths aided by doctors, but moves to make it more accessible are being questioned
www.theguardian.com
Looking at what has happened in the UK, from the number of abortions carried out each year to how treatment for minors with puberty blockers became normalised, it is quite clear that any legalisation regarding assisted dying is highly likely to be manipulated if not abused. From being a choice that the individual makes for themselves when of sound mind, the law will gradually be reinterpreted to allow assisted dying to prevent “suffering” - not just of the patient themselves but of those around them. My concern is that assisted dying will evolve from being used near end-of-life to then include long-term diseases and disabilities, both physical and mental.
Despite the entreaties that “it will never happen”, I have no doubts that we will see activists, unscrupulous physicians and ill-meaning relatives use assisted dying - whether directly or indirectly - as a means to get rid of “problems”. It may also be used as a means to reduce funding for palliative care, as why spend money making the end of someone’s life comfortable when a quick injection will save all that cost?
My fear is that any safeguards built into the law will gradually be relaxed, as society becomes accustomed to the idea that assisting someone to die is perfectly acceptable.
I certainly don’t envy the individual MP’s having to make the choice over which way to vote. I hope they will take the time to carefully consider the implications of assisted dying, rather than just listening to the advice of celebrity activists, as they are literally making a life or death decision that will affect all of society in the future.
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