Badger Camp
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EMcC
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The things I'd like to send them are not allowed to be sent by post
Have you noticed the majority of them are 'hippy' types and nearly as old as me !!!!
bewsher500
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The thing I don't get is they (those in favour of a cull) have packaged this the wrong way and it has opened them up to criticism
culling badgers won't get rid of all the Badgers, no-one is suggesting that is the aim or the intention
neither will it get rid of the TB
Bovine TB has been round for decades. you just need one infected Badger.
as the son of a large animal vet I used to help him with his testing as a schoolboy in the holidays and I remember how prevalent it was then.
Its a turd polishing exercise
This should have been packaged as a population control to assist in reducing the volume of TB carriers, not an all singing all dancing solution.
vaccination and eradication from both cattle and badger populations is the only way it will stop. thats a EU issue not a local or national one
usual DEFRA, Government clusterf##k
culling badgers won't get rid of all the Badgers, no-one is suggesting that is the aim or the intention
neither will it get rid of the TB
Bovine TB has been round for decades. you just need one infected Badger.
as the son of a large animal vet I used to help him with his testing as a schoolboy in the holidays and I remember how prevalent it was then.
Its a turd polishing exercise
This should have been packaged as a population control to assist in reducing the volume of TB carriers, not an all singing all dancing solution.
vaccination and eradication from both cattle and badger populations is the only way it will stop. thats a EU issue not a local or national one
usual DEFRA, Government clusterf##k
Si
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I agree.... if the government had introduced a bill making it legal for farmers to humanely control badgers, then it wouldn't have even made the six o'clock news.
My question to the soap dodgers is this "why is it OK to poison a rat but not to shoot a badger?"
EMcC
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Before the Badger Act came in, local areas of over population were controlled by local people as and when required.
I remember the sulpher candle method of getting them out to be shot or snared if the skins were to be sold.
The trouble was, that there was quite a bit of Badger Baiting going on, so I am told, it certainly didn't take place in my part of Somerset, but that was the reason the Badger Act was brought in.
Now that guns are mentioned and the thought of total eradication of Badgers in certain areas doesn't settle well with the public.
Total eradication is almost impossible, as Badgers, can and do, travel miles during the night so what might appear to be a clear area is in fact an area where the badgers have had an 'away day' and stopped overnight !!
Section 10 of the 1992 Badgers act allows for licences to be issued to control Badgers.
In 1997 prior to the election, the Labour party received a donation of £1million from the Political Animal Lobby, funded with a loan of £600 000 from IFAW.
The chairman of PAL was Angela Beveridge, the sister of Tony Banks then the MP for Islington.
Since 1997 no new licences have been issued.
Prior to 1997 bTB was at a very low level in the UK.
The incidence of bTB has increased dramatically since 1997 to cost the UK tax payer over £1 billion.
Owen Patterson, DEFRA secretary recently announced a 25 year plan to rid the UK of bTB.
Thanks to Tony Blair, nice return on the investment.
norma 308
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Paid protesters ? I bet the younger protester will be from rent a mob !The things I'd like to send them are not allowed to be sent by post
Have you noticed the majority of them are 'hippy' types and nearly as old as me !!!!
The cull is to determine the efficacy of the free shooting of Badgers and not to reduce the incidence of bTB as such.
Vaccinating Badgers costs £600 per Badger and does not stop the already infected Badgers from continung to do so, the so called super excretors.
Cattle vaccination does not work, otherwise it would be implemented.
So how do you explain the elimination of bTB in cattle around Thornbury following the gassing of all setts in the area in 1975?
No bTB was reported in cattle in the area for 10 years officially, 20 years unofficially.
I live three miles from Thornbury.
More info here: Bovine TB
Far be it for me to teach you how to suck eggs but...
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TB this TB that, too many TB's in that post. Need to be eradicated...
It was my understanding that Labour, with Banks the prime mover, added to the badger act making it illegal to "interfere" with setts to handicap fox hunters prior to the ban, who might want to stop-up setts to keep terriers out. Before that farmers had routinely evicted badgers without killing them where the location of setts was problematic. In other words an act of blatant political spite, a motivation which drove so much of the previous government's legislation, had a host of unintended real-life consequences.
But even without the issue of TB, badger should be controlled anyway. They have become serious pests both to farmers and other wild species. If their numbers continus to expand they may drive already endangered species such as frogs, skylarks and hedgehogs to extinction. The protesters are either profoundly stupid or motivated not by conservation but an irrational political hatred of landowner and shooters, or at least the caricatures of landowners and shooters that they have in the heads.
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Dave the welder
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Stop there benefits, see how they stay then.
They want to protect them, well pick up stroke one then, bet they wouldn't hold to long if they picked up for a stroke.
What if a badger was to savage a toddler in a pushchair what would general public say then. Be like the fox incendent down Plymouth a years back. They want there cull then.
They want to protect them, well pick up stroke one then, bet they wouldn't hold to long if they picked up for a stroke.
What if a badger was to savage a toddler in a pushchair what would general public say then. Be like the fox incendent down Plymouth a years back. They want there cull then.
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