Bored of the 223 looking for something new.

[CillDaraVerminator]

Buy a different 223 or get a 204.
17 Remington and 220 swift ammo and rifles are hard to get now and if you do find ammo it will be expensive.

17rem or 220 swift are €60 for a box of 20, keeps it to €3 a shot which I can live with. 204 is 35 a box which is good also.

Gonna try get out and shoot each over the next weekend or two see what I like the feel of.

 

[palo]

17rem or 220 swift are €60 for a box of 20, keeps it to €3 a shot which I can live with. 204 is 35 a box which is good also.

Gonna try get out and shoot each over the next weekend or two see what I like the feel of.

I changed from a 220 swift to the 204 years ago .
I love the 204.

 

[Foxyboy43]

17rem or 220 swift are €60 for a box of 20, keeps it to €3 a shot which I can live with. 204 is 35 a box which is good also.

Gonna try get out and shoot each over the next weekend or two see what I like the feel of.

Jeez! £2.50 a pop? Makes the triple deuce homeloads seem absolutely cheap as chips!

 

[Smellydog]

This conversation is getting daft....

 

[CillDaraVerminator]

Box of 222 is €40 so €2 a shot not bad either. 223 you can get it for €1 a shot with the fiocchi epn rounds.

 

[CillDaraVerminator]

This conversation is getting daft....

Just people sharing bits of info back and forth whilst someone tries to decide what to get instead of a 223, click the unwatch button and jog on if not to your taste.

 

[Dougal McGuire]

5.7x28 or 4.6x30 would make nice varminting cartridges if someone made them in a bolt action and loaded with varmint bullets.

 

[Smellydog]

Just people sharing bits of info back and forth whilst someone tries to decide what to get instead of a 223, click the unwatch button and jog on if not to your taste.

No no not at, I'm enjoying the show.
Using sledgehammers to crack nuts makes for hilarious viewing.

 

[CillDaraVerminator]

No no not at, I'm enjoying the show.
Using sledgehammers to crack nuts makes for hilarious viewing.

Ah haha no issues so, will be giving the hornet a crack tomorrow on a permission of mine, someone local is kind enough to bring his shiny new Annie out to let me try so looking forward to that.

 

[Smellydog]

Ah haha no issues so, will be giving the hornet a crack tomorrow on a permission of mine, someone local is kind enough to bring his shiny new Annie out to let me try so looking forward to that.

You remind me of me 35 years ago. I had to go and try everything but you'll probably end up where you started. Have fun.
For 250' I'd just use a rimfire though.

 

[CillDaraVerminator]

I've only experience with 22lr, 223 and 308. All great but want something different in the safe, I will more than likely keep the 223 and just get something else anyway as new safe installed so lots of space to be filled.

 

[Ratel]

.222
or maybe 22-250
I would have a 22-250 for foxing, if I was starting over again.

A good tool all round, used one for foxes, Sika, Reds, Fallow and Roe. (I'll say before any comments about the deer, last Scotland, other 3 in Ireland).

 

[Bowland blades]

Buy a different 223 or get a 204.
17 Remington and 220 swift ammo and rifles are hard to get now and if you do find ammo it will be expensive.

I "think" the 220 swift is quite a thing in Southern Ireland , due to the Laws in place

 

[JTO]

I met 2 chaps from the Irish Free State at the Belvoir game fair, the stuff they were buying made me comment on their reloading ban. "Sure, but we all do" was the reply.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Haven’t bought factory ammo other than .22 and .17hmr (and other stuff which we still have in NI but don’t want to rub it in) in 30 years so just did a homeloads calculation for the triple deuce:-
Powder - c.700 rounds per kilo at £140ish per kilo = 20p;
Primers - 1000 at £110 = 11p;
Bullets - 100 at £27 = 27p;
Brass - say 100 at £60 for new then free and upwards of 15 reloads each.
Sooo - £1.18 per round for the first reloads but then……
Powder - c.700 rounds per kilo at £140ish per kilo = 20p;
Primers - 1000 at £110 = 11p;
Bullets - 100 at £27 = 27p.
Giving a grand total of £0.58 per round thereafter - regional variations will of course apply and this excludes the cost of presses, dies etc upon which you can spend a fortune should you wish but if you are shooting a fair amount of ammo it’s a good proposition. Then of course there's the fun and utter satisfaction of rolling your own which personally I find priceless!

Apologies to the chap down South as I know reloading is a no-no….

 

[Heym SR20]

I love my 223 that I built for myself during lockdown, but it is a 26” heavy barrel on a rem 700 action so is a bit of a lump.

However for a little non lumpish rifle I think this article sums up what a 223 should really be like. Now I appreciate it is an expensive custom rifle, but the little CZ 223’s are a sweet little rifle that have a reputation for shooting very well. Sako did make actions proportionate to the 223 and I believe are doing so again. Shultz and Larsen legacy are also scaled for size and are really nice rifles (although they do insist on putting handles on the right hand side). There are a few Ruger #1’s about in 223, and a fellow club member has one. Nice little rifle from 5 yards away, but there is something about Ruger’s investment cast actions that just feel cheap and nasty. They should be really nice to handle, but they feel a bit 1970’s diecast toy like.

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[Chris Richardson]

I love the .222 but it’s a bit close to the .223 if looking for something different I’d go .220 swift

 

[palo]

I "think" the 220 swift is quite a thing in Southern Ireland , due to the Laws in place

Yes it used to be.
Before they amended the firearms laws you couldn't license a .222 or .223 but you could license a 220 swift as it was classed the same as a 22 rimfire.
Only in Ireland.

 

[Foxyboy43]

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Yes it used to be.
Before they amended the firearms laws you couldn't license a .222 or .223 but you could license a 220 swift as it was classed the same as a 22 rimfire.
Only in Ireland.

Interesting - was that the military calibre thing?

 

[Bowland blades]

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Interesting - was that the military calibre thing?

Not really its I guess just some Civil Servant who thought its all about bore sizes , yet actually was clueless! A swift was very effective in every nation on deer etc before governments made the daft laws and it still happens today Globally !