JabaliHunter
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From the NRA in the USA NRA News | A Defenseless Population
Interesting perspective!
Interesting perspective!
From the NRA in the USA NRA News | A Defenseless Population
Interesting perspective!
Very one-sided and difficult to compare Britain to the USA where virtually everyone appears to either own or carry a handgun!Having watched the 'COPS' programme recently (a 'fly on the wall' look at policing in various US jurisdictions) what intrigued me was the lack of firearms present at the various scenes presented. For a country apparently awash in handguns they hardly ever appear and often turn up in purses or under car seats after the offender is in handcuffs. Given the melodrama inherent in a gunfight you would think editors would include as many as possible to up the ratings, but most programmes are about stoned, drunk or otherwise smacked up car thieves, shop lifters or speeders - pretty much like the UK. What is most instructive is the manner and demeanour of the officers involved, who are generally pretty impressive when compared to what you see on Essex Police Interceptors!
Personal defence with a handgun was never a legitimate reason for ownership
Two things come to my mind on this, firstly if someone breaks into your property then they deserve what ever is coming their way. They made the decision so they can face the consequences. Secondly I think our police force should be armed, this may make the likes of the rioters think twice about kicking off (theres a copper waving a stick come on then lets have it.............or that police man has a gun pointing at me maybe I should pi** off)
Firstly there are ARV's that are armed to the hilt in most major cities beds have a 50BMG on their helicopter well they use to anyway. When Ryan slaughtered people in Hungerford the nearest ARV was 4hours away which he probably was aware of but that changed very quickly after.
USA riots of the 90's were never stopped even though they had SWAT etc everywhere the rioters just carried on do you really think it would of stopped the UK rioters? as for arming the UK police force fully that like repeal of the Pistol ban will never happen, we could not afford it and generally we have a very low firearms crime don't forget if an airgun is fired in a public place that goes down on the stats.
PT17-SO19 are available in the capitol at very short notice so are so called Leaders are always safe
Shame they seemed to take so long when that awfull incident happened in Woolwich.
Shame they only wounded them!
When Ryan slaughtered people in Hungerford the nearest ARV was 4hours away which he probably was aware of but that changed very quickly after.
Personal defence with a handgun was never a legitimate reason for ownership.
When Thames Valley police went to Hungerford by helicopter, they just stood around neither searching nor knowing where to go or what to do. It was the boys from the regiment that got him holed up in the school where he 'killed himself'.......now, the strong money says it's pretty hard to 'double tap' yourself with a 7.62mm round.
Not much of the carryings on in this case was ever released by the Thatcher government at the time, but it was known, she didn't want the UK police to look like an ass. Although, as also with the case of Hamilton, police checks on background were not detailed enough as both had lied about clubs of which they purported to be members, also, recommendations by a police sergeant in the case of Hamilton where he described the man as being 'devious and sly' were disregarded by the Asst. Chief Constable. He was later retired on a full pension.
Our biggest shooting enemies are the media, along with both police and politicians. Their minds are made up. Confuse them not with facts. Just my take on these incidents and the penalty genuine shooting sportsmen pay for these horrific but isolated occurrences. We should be represented by organisations with more teeth. ATB