British Deer Society Range Officer Scheme:

[Koenig]

BLUF:

I replied to the BDS trawl for volunteer Range Officers in about (April) and have had no response since despite chasing it up.

Basically this scheme consisted of taking students to a mutually agreeable range and putting them through their DSC 1 qualification shoot as part of the BDS run DSC1.

I think I have the required quals and experience in spades and indeed assist a commercial training provider on occasion when he is short of range staff.

So, my question is are BDS running this scheme? Is anyone on SD already involved?

I’ll be honest. I’m minded to give BDS one last call after the holidays and then write it off as a waste of time, which seems a shame as it’s run on a gratis basis - seems an odd way to treat a willing volunteer.

 

[Rutland lad]

Try emailing Mr Nick Rout at the BDS.
He’s Head of Training.

 

[Greenmist]

If its any consolation I wanted to become an RCO when the NRA were running the reduced rate course for the Olympics in 2012, still waiting for a reply

 

[8x57]

Koenig I'm slightly confused, do you already hold the NRA range officer qualification and were offering your services to the BDS to assist with running DSC tests?
Or were you hoping to gain the NRA RCO card?
Either way a poor show on the part of the BDS in not replying to you.

 

[Koenig]

Koenig I'm slightly confused, do you already hold the NRA range officer qualification and were offering your services to the BDS to assist with running DSC tests?
Or were you hoping to gain the NRA RCO card?
Either way a poor show on the part of the BDS in not replying to you.

Morning 8x57, I already have an NRA RCO qual. I have military RMQ quals daring back to the mid 1990’s and the experience to go with it. I just find it odd that I’ve had no answer one way or the other, just radio silence despite a chase up.

 

[bowji john]

I did the RCO course with the BDA a few years ago

The course itself is geared towards running military ranges, however…

I would recommend taking advantage of it if you can

Even if you don’t really require it, as it adds to your knowledge base

 

[Klenchblaize]

Do you need the NRA coaching qualification to coach BDS members through DSC1?

K

 

[Koenig]

Do you need the NRA coaching qualification to coach BDS members through DSC1?

K

The DSC 1Qual is a test - pass / fail. The candidate either arrives suitably prepared and capable of passing the criteria or he/she doesn’t. Strictly speaking there is no ‘coaching’ element.

I have military coaching quals too. The relevant military quals transfer across to NRA (for a fee).

I’m not looking to benefit from the arrangement at all. I already have the full suite of quals. This is about giving back to those starting out in stalking.

 

[Klenchblaize]

The DSC 1Qual is a test - pass / fail. The candidate either arrives suitably prepared and capable of passing the criteria or he/she doesn’t. Strictly speaking there is no ‘coaching’ element.

I have military coaching quals too. The relevant military quals transfer across to NRA (for a fee).

I’m not looking to benefit from the arrangement at all. I already have the full suite of quals. This is about giving back to those starting out in stalking.

I was simply suggesting you ask BDS if this is a requirement.

Not questioning your motive.

K

 

[Koenig]

K,

It’s a test. There isn’t a coaching element, hence no requirement for coaching qualifications. I think we’re at X purposes. To recalibrate back to the original Q.

Is anyone on SD already involved in this scheme?

Does anyone know if it’s actually up and running yet?

K.

 

[Ronin]

The shooting element I have seen in person of DSC1 has included coaching for people who had not handled a centerfire weapon before, let alone an air rifle

One of the reasons I raised concerns about this and the fact the far lower standard of shooting was required therefore devaluing the “test” with the deer society in question

I did eventually receive a basic reply that wasn’t really worth replying to - therefore have pretty much withdrawn from any involvement with them - though still support as a “ entity “ I do not support those in charge of the ship

 

[weblyish]

I did my dsc with bds

It was all the bds people running the shooting assessment and safety assessment. (rout and Rhian) I can't see how they would use a RCO on addition

K,

It’s a test. There isn’t a coaching element, hence no requirement for coaching qualifications. I think we’re at X purposes. To recalibrate back to the original Q.

Is anyone on SD already involved in this scheme?

Does anyone know if it’s actually up and running yet?

K.

 

[Rutland lad]

Perhaps I can help here.

Within the East Mercia Branch of the BDS there are only three RCO’s who are BDS authorised.
When this Branch runs Range Days through the summer months it’s sometimes very difficult to coordinate the dates to ensure one of those ‘Branch’ RCO’s is available.

Within our membership we also have a number of very experienced RCO’s who currently are NOT authorised by the BDS.
Those people are currently on a list and are hoping to become authorised under Mr Nick Rout soon.
That will allow the three current RCO’s a breather on Range Days and ease the current situation.

I personally have also RCO’d a DSC1 shooting test whilst Mr Rout assessed the candidates.

 

[Ratel]

I would respectfully suggest the BDS get their finger out and Mr Rout gets his Authorisation skates on. RCO's are hard to come by, he needs to move quicker and also reply to OP.

 

[Koenig]

I did my dsc with bds

It was all the bds people running the shooting assessment and safety assessment. (rout and Rhian) I can't see how they would use a RCO on addition

W,

The BDS trawl was very clear in terms of what it was looking for: suitably qualified and experienced individuals to conduct the DSC1 shooting test. If they have enough pre-existing capacity why trawl? For what? See what I mean? If the requirement has fallen away then the BDS should say so.

 

[Ronin]

The bigger picture is the DSC test isn’t fit for purpose and should not be supported by organisations purporting to promote ethical deer managment

“They” as in all organisations who run DSC tests should in my opinion have stuck with the original test format or added elements to it

It’s a test after all

If candidates haven’t prepared for it they should be encouraged to do so prior to the test

Def should not be any coaching during the test

 

[Rob-E]

BLUF:

I replied to the BDS trawl for volunteer Range Officers in about (April) and have had no response since despite chasing it up.

Basically this scheme consisted of taking students to a mutually agreeable range and putting them through their DSC 1 qualification shoot as part of the BDS run DSC1.

I think I have the required quals and experience in spades and indeed assist a commercial training provider on occasion when he is short of range staff.

So, my question is are BDS running this scheme? Is anyone on SD already involved?

I’ll be honest. I’m minded to give BDS one last call after the holidays and then write it off as a waste of time, which seems a shame as it’s run on a gratis basis - seems an odd way to treat a willing volunteer.

I also volunteered and am an NRA RCO and Safety officer as well as a coach.

I heard nothing.

 

[Koenig]

Rob-E,

Do you want to drop me a PM with regard to your thoughts in progressing this? K

 

[Dickie]

Isn't Tim #VSS daughter part of the training team ? perhaps she could help she is on here if I remember but can't remember her name/forum name.

 

[finnbear270]

@Mouse?