Brno all 601

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Keeper randell

Keeper randell

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Looking at the above in 308, found one for £125 and wanted to know people's opinions and experiences with them.
Seems a good price to me,I haven't got much a a budget for another rifle.
 
It's that price for a reason. Spares are almost non-existent (waste of time calling Edgar Bros) and the safety works the wrong way about. There are three variations in style of stock. The early style looks great. Timeless. Like a classic English stalking rifle. The last style looks bloomin' awful like a bastar*ised faux Weatherby.

Scope mounts may be an issue. Hillver used to make them but Hillver no longer exist. Joe Beatham at Gunshop Cat Hill may have a set. Possibly. Or not. The straight trigger that is supposed to have a "set" function is awful as a standard trigger. The optional extra curved trigger works well...but sell for a lot of money on eBay.

I'd pass on it. As said it's that price for a reason. Get a Parker Hale instead. I had two ZKK 600 both in .270 WCF. But they were the old style stock and I had the Zeiss Jena 'scope with the dedicated BRNO rail mount. They don't date as they are classic. But the bastar*ised faux Weatherby were of their time. And that time is passed.

Add another 100-150 Quid to your budget and get something better.
 
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I had an early ZKK 601 .243 Win for years, the one with the classic stock, original mounts etc like enfield’s example above. It was my first centrefire handed down by my Grandpa. It’s still in the family, care of a nephew in the US now. So obviously I am very attached to the model, sentimentally, shot my first deer with it, blah blah blah.

BUT truth is last time I used it on a visit to the States it was like hopping into your first car after 35 years and finding Cortina MK 2s weren’t quite as cool as you remember. Hadn’t shot it for several years and it didn’t go very well. A more recent diet of Tikkas had kinda changed the game. As Enfield says, the trigger was a bit of a horror show after using a modern rifle, though back in the day of course I didn’t know any better. So I’m happy it’s still well cared for, and being 100% original and unmolested it is kind of cool. But I would not recommend buying one with an uncertain history in anything other than mint original condition. And that will not cost £125.
 
Grab it. I have a 7x57mm Mauser from that era, the CZ Brno transition models. Great action and barrels, integral scope bases for which Warne and other offer rings, and real hunting sights.

The front sight has a quickly replaceable blade, which can be changed to different blades and beads of different heights, in order to change the zero range. And they are inexpensive.

The trigger and stock are really good, too. It is a genuine hunting rifle, ready to go, right out of the box.
 
It's that price for a reason. Spares are almost non-existent (waste of time calling Edgar Bros
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Funny you should say that I can get just about any (original) spare part that they will ever need, including the triggers that are so hard to find... and that's not much as far as spares go . they are just about indestructible. I would grab it up, try shooting it first. check the barrel for wear. other than that. great rifle.

(not to mention that being a BRNO and a classic mauser action theres plenty of interchangeable parts with the CZ550 and at the price they go for even buying another one for spares is an option)
 
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Er, gents, you've forgotten the bit about "I haven't got much of a budget for another rifle".

Sure they're classic etc etc I know I (technically) still own one... but man I'd hate to recommend to someone they grab one when we know precisely nothing of its heritage.

Keeper Randell, is there any more info you can share (e.g. web link)? Would be good to know a bit more about it cos I hear what Southern and ileso are saying, and they are cool, but again, I wouldn't want one that wasn't in good nick and didn't need money spent on it.

er... edit... it's this one, right?

https://www.gunstar.co.uk/brno-zkk-601-bolt-action-308-rifles/rifles/978368
 
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dodgyknees said:
Er, gents, you've forgotten the bit about "I haven't got much of a budget for another rifle".

Sure they're classic etc etc I know I (technically) still own one... but man I'd hate to recommend to someone they grab one when we know precisely nothing of its heritage.

Keeper Randell, is there any more info you can share (e.g. web link)? Would be good to know a bit more about it cos I hear what Southern and ileso are saying, and they are cool, but again, I wouldn't want one that wasn't in good nick and didn't need money spent on it.

er... edit... it's this one, right?

https://www.gunstar.co.uk/brno-zkk-601-bolt-action-308-rifles/rifles/978368
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That's the one!! dodgyknees
 
dodgyknees said:
Er, gents, you've forgotten the bit about "I haven't got much of a budget for another rifle".

Sure they're classic etc etc I know I (technically) still own one... but man I'd hate to recommend to someone they grab one when we know precisely nothing of its heritage.

Keeper Randell, is there any more info you can share (e.g. web link)? Would be good to know a bit more about it cos I hear what Southern and ileso are saying, and they are cool, but again, I wouldn't want one that wasn't in good nick and didn't need money spent on it.

er... edit... it's this one, right?

https://www.gunstar.co.uk/brno-zkk-601-bolt-action-308-rifles/rifles/978368
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Mmmm, 32 inch stock and 13 inch barrel. Wouldn’t want either of those!
Ken.
 
enfieldspares said:
It's that price for a reason. Spares are almost non-existent (waste of time calling Edgar Bros) and the safety works the wrong way about. There are three variations in style of stock. The early style looks great. Timeless. Like a classic English stalking rifle. The last style looks bloomin' awful like a bastar*ised faux Weatherby.

Scope mounts may be an issue. Hillver used to make them but Hillver no longer exist. Joe Beatham at Gunshop Cat Hill may have a set. Possibly. Or not. The straight trigger that is supposed to have a "set" function is awful as a standard trigger. The optional extra curved trigger works well...but sell for a lot of money on eBay.

I'd pass on it. As said it's that price for a reason. Get a Parker Hale instead. I had two ZKK 600 both in .270 WCF. But they were the old style stock and I had the Zeiss Jena 'scope with the dedicated BRNO rail mount. They don't date as they are classic. But the bastar*ised faux Weatherby were of their time. And that time is passed.

Add another 100-150 Quid to your budget and get something better.
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I had the ZKK 601 in .243 with the classic stock and the strange set trigger. I loved that set trigger. I had the proper bridge mounts and a Zeiss Jena scope on it. shot a lot of deer with that rifle.
As ES wrote above, the faux weatherby stocked version was not so nice. The rose wood forend tip was not rose wood ,just the tip of the foreend dyed that colour. Had one in .308 in the 70's only had it for about a year and sold it
To my mind Brno, PH, BSA, where of their time. Ok if you can find a nice one but better rifles to be had out there.
 
Keeper randell said:
Looking at the above in 308, found one for £125 and wanted to know people's opinions and experiences with them.
Seems a good price to me,I haven't got much a a budget for another rifle.
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If it is the one flagged up on gunstar I would give it a miss. 13" bbl is good for a .22 RF a tad short for a CF unless its done for a particular job.

I have had six Brno's, four of them 243. These rifles being cheap to purchase are often sold to beginners as starting rifles and then upgraded for a nice Sako within a year. They often slip through the net in the maintenance stakes. I speak from personal experience as everyone I have bought needed some work done on the feeding and extraction. That being said, they are strong, well made rifles with usually nice wood and integral bases and very highly thought of in the USA.
My present one is cut and threaded at 20"which is close behind the ramp front sight and is very accurate. I then machine the sight and time it to fit back on to the thread in order to use on open sights by removing the scope and mounts.
Don't be put off by Chinese whispers they can be great wee guns when they come up and are well worth the asking prices around the £200.00 mark. Always have them bore scoped before you buy, even from a distant seller, it is not unreasonable to ask, as is topical just now on the forum.:-|

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:D When I have them shooting way I want them, I usually move on to the next challenge. As in reloading, it is an important part of my hobby. john
 
Southern said:
My first Brno was a K98.. great rifle, and it wasn't in "good nick", after the war.

I have owned a few Brno 22F, and have one now in 7x64, built about 1947, and it will be hunting for another 100 years.... long after most rifles built in 2017.
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I agree, I have 2 ZKK601s, both fantastic rifles, the triggers are tinkered with and shoot wonderful groups etc. Spares? who cares, I don't as I have fired many thousands of rounds and nothing has worn out or broken and they will be working perfectly years after Ive ben planted.
 
this one has the pop up peep sight as well which is a bonus when selling as they are highly sought after. You may want to check the barrel though to see how it is.
 
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