Carcass Drying out in Chiller

Andy L

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#1
Managed to catch up with a buck a week or so ago and had the opportunity to try out the new chiller.
It has been working perfectly for 10 days now and I decided that it was time to butcher the buck. The exposed surfaces of meat had dried to an almost leathery feel. I have had drying in my previous chiller but not to this level. Anyone got any ideas how to reduce this.
I have set the chiller at 3 degrees and it cuts in about 10 to 15 minutes per hour. The internal fans stay on all of the time so maybe this is the problem. The chiller is about 6ftx6ftx6.5ft high.
Any ideas?
 

swampy

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#2
fans

I bet it's the fans.
I have a coke fridge (which doesn't work it heats to a steady 32 deg) but you can turn the fans off.

steve
 

sp4rkman

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#3
What can also help is putting a bucket of water in the chiller. This adds some moisutre into the air and can reduce drying somewhat.
 

griffshrek

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#5
Andy

same as pete e . get an eletronic humidity/moisture ,temp gadgit they are about £6-7

i dont know the correct humidity level for chiller but my fridge is 58% humidity. you best option is get a humidity /moisture gadgit check you chiller out then go 10% more moisture and see how it goes. you could also try leaving skin on deer to stop drying out.....neil
 

sikamalc

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Site Staff
#6
I agree with Neil, I never skin my deer once in the chiller, until I am ready to butcher it, or skin it a day or two before you are going to chop it up. That way it will not dry out so much.
 

Andy L

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#8
The carcass was still with jacket and as Pete says, the exposed surfaces were between haunches and the inner fillets etc. I only skin just prior or the day before butchering.
There does not seem to be any facility for a humidity setting and there was actually some water in the chiller but this did not seem to help.
The meat kept beautifully so I know that the temperature was right (and the fridge said 3 deg.)
You say get a humidity meter but how would I go about increasing the humidity?
 

stone

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#9
andy
all i can say is leave the blooming skin on till your ready to butcher it
the other thing you could use is the old style muslim that they used to put around the carcass to keep it moist , don't wrap it in a bin liner as that will iduce mould within a few days
the moment the jacket is off , then it seems like a second skin starts to form and that becomes tough , normaly within 2-3 days you start to notice and it starts to darken
the recommended temp for deer is 7c and game 4c
my fridge is set at 4c and the brother inlaws is set at 1c, humidity seems to hav no bearing from what i can tell
 

Andy L

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#10
Oi Stone, I did leave the blooming skin on!!!!! :D
The meat under the skin is perfect and maybe I am just a bit fussy but never have the exposed surfaces quite so dry.
Interesting what you say about 7 deg for deer. I always thought it was 3 to 5 deg.
 

stone

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#11
apart from the few phonecalls i hav made and answered tonite i hav spent a few minutes looking for a book which specialises on chiller temps and humidity levels , guess what it is not where i left it
but will find it out for when you are up at mine , who has done the small and large game meat handling course as this was one thing that was brought up when i did mine ,
 

nuttyspaniel

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#15
No matter what you fridge/ freeze if not covered wrapped it will dry/burn in these conditions. As stone said try wrapping it in a slightly damp muslim, or you could wipe exposed areas with olive oil! In my old kitchen we marinaded the farmed crap we got in, and to seal this we cover in oil this keeps the "air" out and whilst the red wine etc added flavour the oil kept it spot on. I could keep venison for up to a month without fear it would turn. Just a thought on this and I dont think olive oil would taint the meat.

nutty
 

ezzy6.5

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#16
Hi guys,

meat should be stored @ around 5 degrees, at 8 degrees most pathogens will be slowed down, but 8 degrees is still in the 'danger zone' .

Be carefull leaving water in chillers it is not considered good practice to have standing water around carcases.

Ezzy.
 

243win

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#17
trying to humidify a chiller cab, should not be undertaken by people who do not understand the compexity of what is happening, there are generally two methods of producing humidity for systems(there are more)one is by using steam no nasty bacteria, the other ultrasonic transducers, but the systems you are trying to adapt have no means of dealing with the excess water or control systems needed, leave them as chillers, as the cost of proper humidity meters are £100's, cheap and chearful are useless,(try to imagine a £10 tasco scope is as good as a nightforce!) the airflow will cause problems, but cannot be change for long due to the design of the evaporator, hence leave them in the skin, they really are a nightmare to modify

steve
 

MarkH

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#18
Hi Stone

stone said:
andy
all i can say is leave the blooming skin on till your ready to butcher it
the other thing you could use is the old style muslim that they used to put around the carcass to keep it moist , don't wrap it in a bin liner as that will iduce mould within a few days
tell
I've never heard of this technique (possibly from the Crusades) but cheese-cloth works quite well :lol: :lol:

Mark
 

sikamalc

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#19
Had to laugh at this one, the thought of a Muslim wrapped around a dead deer :lol: :lol: Cheese cloth is something I use alot, it also helps to prevent flys gaining access to the carcase and also keeps the beast clean.

I suppose you could always use a turban, Stone :lol: :lol:
 

Little Terry

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#20
sikamalc said:
Had to laugh at this one, the thought of a Muslim wrapped around a dead deer :lol: :lol: Cheese cloth is something I use alot, it also helps to prevent flys gaining access to the carcase and also keeps the beast clean.

I suppose you could always use a turban, Stone :lol: :lol:
There is a subtle advert at the bottom of the page ;) but I guess you must all be tight arses! :lol:
 

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