Could someone explain 22 ammo

[Highlandsjohn]

In South Africa Moderators are sold and promoted as " Silencers"

Hollywood influence.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

I did pest control for 13 years on two American Air Force bases for rabbits and I only ever used Ely standard. I found that if I zeroed at 70yds I could shot out to 150yds easy, I also found that the sound of a sub sonic hollow point made more noise when it hit the rabbit and spooked others. I head shot the rabbits.

I agree about the sound level but you are a much better shot than I.

 

[timbrayford]

Head shots on a rabbit at 150 yards-well done!

 

[Longstrider]

Head shots on a rabbit at 150 yards-well done!

'Beware the man with one gun, for he probably knows how to use it' I'm not suggesting that the Colonel only has the one gun by that, it's just that if you do a lot of shooting with a rifle/ammo combination you do tend to become better with it. Bunny bashing with a rimmy is probably going to see you fire more shots in a week than some stalkers fire in a year if you're serious about it. Nor am I implying that rabbit shooters are better shots than stalkers, it's just that I know that when we had good rabbit numbers in my area (oh those wonderful days before RVHD hit them and did more to wipe themout than the dreaded Myxy) I was buying and using rimfire ammo by the 1000 on a regular basis. Not something I ever see likely happening with my centrefires. The amount of use my rimfires had made me a better shot, I'm sure of it. Subsonic ammo, a decent rimfire, and a steady rest combined with that amount of usage made 100yds and well beyond a very un-safe place to be for a rabbit to sit still.

Note to self : Get the rimmy out and use it more to fine hone those motor skills.

 

[Cyres]

Quite feasible I used to regularly head shoot rabbits up to 120 yds with my annie using Eley subs. However now if I a m shooting regularly over 100 yds I use my .204. Also like lots of other members of the site Eley subs are no where as consistent as they used to be.

D

 

[Woodsmoke]

Head shots on a rabbit at 150 yards-well done!

It's more than possible. I've shot crows at a lasered 147. Learn your rifle, learn your ballistics, and practice

 

[Colonel]

Yes I was shooting 150 Plus rabbits a night 2/3 days a week and using 15000-16000 rounds a year. I did have one place where a friend and I head shot rabbits at 175yds, it was 32 clicks up from my normal setting.

 

[thistledeyke]

I haven’t a clue to go for or understand what to look for either I’ve got a tikka t1 in 22 and will be using it for vermin shooting but when I look about I see bullets of sub sonic match varmint ect what does all this mean can anyone point me in the direction of a bullet that will do my job will be using a silencer and perhaps shooting UK to 75 yards at a push all small vermin including hares and an odd fox if it popped up

Sub sonic hollow points most are 40 grain, Winchester changed to 42 grain recently. Buy some of all the common brands and see which shoot best out of your rifle.

 

[Woodsmoke]

I did have one place where a friend and I head shot rabbits at 175yds, it was 32 clicks up from my normal setting.

I can't remember what my holdover was on those crows. I think it was in the region of 20" or thereabouts, if memory serves. It was a while ago now

 

[Sjambok]

Yes I was shooting 150 Plus rabbits a night 2/3 days a week and using 15000-16000 rounds a year. I did have one place where a friend and I head shot rabbits at 175yds, it was 32 clicks up from my normal setting.

Mmmm, were the rabbits running backwards?

 

[Colonel]

No Mike they weren’t

 

[Sjambok]

No Mike they weren’t

Just checking.

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

use subsonics
Try a range and test them all for grouping in your rifle
some subs are slower than other removing the "Summer Crackers" which will touch supersonic on hot days
RWS subs are excellent and tend to be 50fps slower than Win or Eley Subs
Norma also do a Sub now although its headstamped RWS

 

[Alantoo]

Hi

And also a Moderator not a silencer.

Moderator of sound or silencer all but the same thing surely perhaps not the correct terminology when your at the top of the class but folk still understand what you mean when your at the bottom of the class

I think calling a moderator a silencer would strike fear if the general public when they think of how they are shown in the movies! Also does your FAC say you have a silencer or a moderator?

.....and yet, the level of sound reduction from a decent moderator with .22 subs is virtually silent.....!

Go figure.

remember Husher Sound Moderators
:
hush ? a = sudden silence:

Odd one ain't it?

We get into the habit of calling them moderators, because they moderate rather than silence. But nobody goes into Kwik Fit and asks for an exhaust pipe and moderator for their car or motor bike and they don’t silence either.

Alan

 

[Alantoo]

'Beware the man with one gun, for he probably knows how to use it' I'm not suggesting that the Colonel only has the one gun by that, it's just that if you do a lot of shooting with a rifle/ammo combination you do tend to become better with it. Bunny bashing with a rimmy is probably going to see you fire more shots in a week than some stalkers fire in a year if you're serious about it. Nor am I implying that rabbit shooters are better shots than stalkers, it's just that I know that when we had good rabbit numbers in my area (oh those wonderful days before RVHD hit them and did more to wipe themout than the dreaded Myxy) I was buying and using rimfire ammo by the 1000 on a regular basis. Not something I ever see likely happening with my centrefires. The amount of use my rimfires had made me a better shot, I'm sure of it. Subsonic ammo, a decent rimfire, and a steady rest combined with that amount of usage made 100yds and well beyond a very un-safe place to be for a rabbit to sit still.

Note to self : Get the rimmy out and use it more to fine hone those motor skills.

Have just found this...so why were you querying the need for people to go to ranges to practice on the other thread? Familiarity with your rifle is equally important with a centre fire...no?

Alan

 

[Tulloch]

Here is what to do , .22lr ammo is real cheap ,

firstly buy a box of various brands , RWS, Winchester, CCi, Remington and ELey,

Buy all in subsonic , make sure your rifle is zeroes with atleast one of the, at 50yrds then set up a target board and see which one groups the best , dont expect them all to hit the centre of the target the aim is to see how well they group together .

Thew ones that are best grouped that is the ammo to use. don't worry about speeds noise etc , just worry about the grouping to start off with. Then start enjoying how fun the .22lr is once you get more confident start taking it out to longer ranges 100yrds to 150yrds, DO NOT listen to the myths that you cannot push a .22lr out to those ranges truxt me a .22lr will kill rabbits out to 250yrds once you have had a lot of experience.

I have shot rabbites Hares and foxes with the .22lr and I have been using the .22lr since my very first FAC 26 years ago and my mates before. The .22lr is a fantistic, fun and cheap round and I prefer it far more than my .17hmr

 

[Hudson12]

Thank you all for the comments and info I’m just off to fit the MODERATOR and tommorow will buy some various makes and try them thanks again people

 

[Longstrider]

Have just found this...so why were you querying the need for people to go to ranges to practice on the other thread? Familiarity with your rifle is equally important with a centre fire...no?

Alan

Familiarity with the rifle and the whole set-up is essential,of course. My query was as to why pay for the use of a commercially run rifle range when you have land on which to use (and practice) with your rifle.

There was a time when I was doing similar numbers to the Colonel, and I'm absolutely certain that whilst I think I can hold my own now, I know I was a better shot then.

 

[Hudson12]

I’d prefer to go to a range rather than cause a nuisance to the farmer all the time he is a great bloke but me messing about in his fields with a rifle at targets might soon p him off I tend to go round the fields when him and his family are either in bed or finished for the day there is young children about and whilst I’m very careful and would never fire anywhere near the house farm or people I just don’t want anyone to feel wary especially on the own land

 

[Cyres]

Once you have found the make your rifle likes you can then go a step further and select rounds based on rim thickness, there are gauges on the market or you can make your own using a suitable fired centre fire cartridge. On my annie I have a drop chart out to 120 yds, in my case two mil dots is spot on at 100yds, drop from memory is 7.2 inches. Just for info a rabbits ears are 3.5 inches in length so very handy. You will really need a range finder over 100yds as the drop can get quite excesive when using 50 yd zero.

D