Daily Telegraph - British diners need to tuck in to deer more

willie_gunn

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A good article by William Sitwell in today’s DT:

British diners need to tuck in to deer more

Venison is healthy, tasty, cheap and plentiful – it’s time we stopped being so squeamish about Bambi’s mother

It was a provocative headline in a national newspaper: “Bambinos eat Bambi”. The news this week that a chain of nurseries across Dorset and Hampshire were putting deer on the lunch menu doubtless had a clutch of mums spluttering all over their post-drop-off frothy oat lattés.

Tops Day Nurseries, with 4,000 children at 32 nurseries, was making a statement as definitive as the time in May 1990 when the then agriculture minister John Selwyn Gummer fed his four-year-old daughter Cordelia a beef burger at the East Coast Boat Show. Gummer’s bold move was to show that British beef was now safe; three years on from the catastrophic disease BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) that ripped through British cattle.

Of course, there is nothing unsafe about eating venison, far from it, but in the campaign run with Eat Wild, promoters for British game, this is a vital moment. If it’s good enough for kids, it’s fine for the rest of us. After all, we only want the best for our little darlings, so will the nation learn to follow suit?

The advantages of eating venison are endless. Not least because deer numbers are so high and they need culling. At present, some 350,000 are killed each year, but that number ought to be between 500,000 and 750,000 to simply maintain the population.

There are six species of wild deer in the UK – red, sika, fallow, roe, muntjac and water deer – of which two are indigenous. And their population is at the highest it has been, some say, for a thousand years. It’s one of the reasons we keep running them over. Some 75,000 road accidents a year are caused by deer, at a cost of £45 million in damage to our cars.

Deer, when they’re not offering themselves up as roadkill, graze, browse and trample crops, wreck fencing and cause huge damage to forestry, particularly as they like munching on saplings. They dig up bulbs in ancient bluebell woods and strip out vital food supplies of woodland bird species, such as nightingales. And if they are too big in number, a lack of food stresses and weakens them.

In the words of Louisa Clutterbuck, the chief executive of Eat Wild, “the deer population is out of control, so there is absolutely no problem with supply”. Which is not something one could ever say about beef, chicken or pork. Even though the UK has some of the highest welfare standards in the world, these animals are effectively factory-farmed. There is no other way of keeping up with the demand.

Venison is low in fat, with incomparably low levels of saturated fat, is high in Vitamin B and iron, and is a tremendous source of protein. It also tastes fantastic and is every bit as versatile as beef. Apparently the tots at Tops wolf down their venison bolognese. And you’ll frequently see it on the menus of restaurants across the country, with certain chefs consistently championing the meat. One such is the restaurateur, game hunter, fisherman and tank driver Mike Robinson. He is a proselytiser for venison with the fervour of Billy Graham. Indeed, I once witnessed him convert a vegan to the cause. He bangs on about it on Instagram, sells it by the box load and encourages every chef he meets to put venison on their menu. But still we desist. And quite why is a tale of the hypocrisy of the modern consumer. That it is wild is a bit too real for our liking, that deer are hunted and shot is a bit too horrid for our sensibilities.

We prefer chicken because it’s nice and safe and plain and an absorber, a conduit to flavour, rather than a protagonist. So we’ll always choose that over the more flavoursome, more sustainable rabbit.

And we choose the safer options of pork, beef or lamb over venison because they are as familiar and safe as potatoes and they look nice under the lights on the counter, whereas venison tends more to the colour of grey.

And regardless of the endless marketing of provenance, consumers are interested in recipe and flavour rather than the wheres and hows of an animal’s life. Which is the problem with venison. The problem with this whole article. It’s all about the damn back story. Meat sells when it’s PR’d as something that sizzles and oozes and is covered in sauce and is another excuse to spoon on the Dijon.

And while, because I’m weird, I can handle and relish the stalk, the spy, the shot, the gralloch and the butchery, and feel that the more I know, the better it tastes, I can appreciate and refuse to condemn the bulk of consumers who wish to remain clueless hypocrites, who just want a nice burger and chips and a glass of wine (and don’t care either how the grapes were squished and fermented).

So congrats to Eat Wild for this week purveying the key message: it’s healthy, great value and makes kids eat their tea.
 
@willie_gunn Thanks for posting this - it’s so infuriating how we square this circle. I too enjoy the stalk, the opportunity to be out in great country doing something that I know needs to be done only to struggle to move on the carcasses, wasting much that others should readily welcome as the wholesome, nutritious and healthy food that it is. It’s madness 😏
 
We have to accept that not everyone likes venison. In fact the percentage that do is small.
There is not a huge market out there and never will there be.

Except we are never going to grow that market even slightly unless we expose more potential customers to it. The fact that there is a small market in the first place is I believe down to what the author says “That it is wild is a bit too real for our liking”. If we could challenge people’s perceptions enough it would do the world of good for everyone, deer included!
 
We have to accept that not everyone likes venison. In fact the percentage that do is small.
There is not a huge market out there and never will there be.

I wouldn’t expect everyone to like venison, just like I wouldn’t expect everyone to like sprouts, seafood or sausages..

However I’d have to question the assertion that the percentage that like it small. It is rare I find someone who says they genuinely don’t like venison, whereas I often find people have simply never tried it, and have the perception that it’s a strongly-flavoured, tough-textured, meat. Serve them up some muntjac medallions, flash-fried in a little garlic oil, and they soon become converts! Hence, if articles like this encourage a few more people to give venison a try, fantastic.

The choice we, as stalkers, have to make is that either we find or support different ways to get more people to eat venison, or we accept that we will be forever whinging about the pittance we get paid by AGHE’s. If all we are doing is dumping a low-value raw material onto a market that doesn’t want it, often through ignorance of the product’s very existence, then we shouldn’t be surprised that it has no perceived value and we get paid accordingly.
 
I have introduced loads of people to venison who claimed they didn’t like it, simply by giving them free steaks to try. Steaks are so quick and easy to cook that after a long day at work they make a perfect meal. Sadly I have now resorted to leaving muntjac carcasses in the woods for badger food on certain estates as carrying them out is more effort than they’re worth. It pains me too but my industrial freezer is rammed, as is my chiller. People are now offering roe for free on Giving up the Game which devalues our deer carcasses even more. What are we to do?
 
Except we are never going to grow that market even slightly unless we expose more potential customers to it. The fact that there is a small market in the first place is I believe down to what the author says “That it is wild is a bit too real for our liking”. If we could challenge people’s perceptions enough it would do the world of good for everyone, deer included!
I wouldn’t expect everyone to like venison, just like I wouldn’t expect everyone to like sprouts, seafood or sausages..

However I’d have to question the assertion that the percentage that like it small. It is rare I find someone who says they genuinely don’t like venison, whereas I often find people have simply never tried it, and have the perception that it’s a strongly-flavoured, tough-textured, meat. Serve them up some muntjac medallions, flash-fried in a little garlic oil, and they soon become converts! Hence, if articles like this encourage a few more people to give venison a try, fantastic.

The choice we, as stalkers, have to make is that either we find or support different ways to get more people to eat venison, or we accept that we will be forever whinging about the pittance we get paid by AGHE’s. If all we are doing is dumping a low-value raw material onto a market that doesn’t want it, often through ignorance of the product’s very existence, then we shouldn’t be surprised that it has no perceived value and we get paid accordingly.
Don’t get me wrong I would love to see venison on every school meal, in every restaurant and venison burger bars on every street corner. It’s just it’s not happening.
Like others have said I try and introduce people to venison but the number who eat it regularly is small. Some will eat it every now and again.
Our local AGHE freeze almost all of the venison as they cannot shift the fresh stuff which tells you the market is saturated and demand low.
I have nothing against initiatives trying to increase the market just I’m being realistic that the venison share of the meat market will be very small when compared to beef, lamb, pork and chicken.

BE
 
The biggest challenge now stems from the drive to ensure less meat (of any type) is consumed in the drive to improve health of both person and planet.

The point being if someone considers the health risk rating of meats they are frankly more likely to become vegetarian.

K
Sadly very true
 
Well it beats me how people can eat roast chemicals with water ( chicken,) or growth hormone red meat with antibiotics and pour on chemicals ,(beef) and turn down semi organic venison. I've managed two converts but plant based food is also beating us together with venison cost versus other meats.
 
I’m not sure that very many meat eaters are being converted TBH. The problem is mostly the fault of Disney films.
 
Is "Louisa Clutterbuck, the chief executive of Eat Wild" an April fools day name?
But if stalkers really love to do it they will not need the shekels then they could donate the meat to charities for the homeless to make spag boll with it. This is a popular option in the USA. I accept that they want a return on their spends though.
 
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I’m not sure that very many meat eaters are being converted TBH. The problem is mostly the fault of Disney films.
I don't think Disney films have much of an impact anymore. The real problem is simply fear of the unknown. British consumers have a very limited range of food products that they feel comfortable with. The average shopper will simply buy the same familiar things week after week. They're not very adventurous with their diet. It's not often you hear someone say they don't like venison, but you very often hear people say that they wouldn't like venison.
 
Is "Louisa Clutterbuck, the chief executive of Eat Wild" an April fools day name?
But if stalkers really love to do it they will not need the shekels then they could donate the meat to charities for the homeless to make spag boll with it. This is a popular option in the USA. I accept that they want a return on their spends though.
See this thread:
 
I don't think Disney films have much of an impact anymore. The real problem is simply fear of the unknown. British consumers have a very limited range of food products that they feel comfortable with. The average shopper will simply buy the same familiar things week after week. They're not very adventurous with their diet. It's not often you hear someone say they don't like venison, but you very often hear people say that they wouldn't like venison.
People tell me that they don’t like venison all the time. One of them is now one of my best customers but it was over a year before I persuaded him to try mine.
 
People tell me that they don’t like venison all the time. One of them is now one of my best customers but it was over a year before I persuaded him to try mine.
Exactly.
He wouldn't try it, because he  thought he wouldn't like it. Having tried it, he finds he does.
People are so convinced that they're not going to like something that they won't try it.
 
The problem i find is tastes differ and by that i mean between different venison,s. I culled a nice red hind a few weeks ago she hing for a week and then was professionally butchered. I gave it to four friends that regularly take my roe deer this included the farmer were it came from. Only one liked it and said he wanted some more. This was given as burgers square links and steak. I also prefer roe deer and as willie gun says when i get the opportunity a Munty steak or a sika. But they all taste different and some areas have over populations of one type eg Fallow in middle England..
 
I think people are not willing to try it because of the price, if it were cheaper then more people might be willing to take a chance.
It is still a mind set of some people that Venison, like Salmon and Caviar is the delicacy of the Gentry going back to the days of Lords and serfs.
 
I think people are not willing to try it because of the price, if it were cheaper then more people might be willing to take a chance.
It is still a mind set of some people that Venison, like Salmon and Caviar is the delicacy of the Gentry going back to the days of Lords and serfs.
And at a time when many can’t give the stuff away!

K
 
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