Deer wandering onto permission

[angel eyes]

A farm permission i have, deer have started wandering over from an estate. Basically can i shoot them? Im thinking maybe notOr do we have to go down the path of shootings rights. Hope this makes sense

 

[Roedeer 1962]

If there on land you have permission on then yes

 

[Mike L]

Fire away.

 

[vpk999]

A farm permission i have, deer have started wandering over from an estate. Basically can i shoot them? Im thinking maybe notOr do we have to go down the path of shootings rights. Hope this makes sense

I don’t see why not. Ask the farmer if it’s allowed. If he is a tenant farmer, he might not have the sporting rights. Then again, he might have a right under crop protection, if nobody else is controlling them.

 

[willowbank]

You’ll need a) landowners agreement b) ticket cleared for deer. c) basic knowledge and facilities to handle carcass

WB

 

[Tim.243]

A farm permission i have, deer have started wandering over from an estate. Basically can i shoot them? Im thinking maybe notOr do we have to go down the path of shootings rights. Hope this makes sense

What does you permission letter say (mine says permission to shoot deer on xyz farm)
also have you deer on your fac and do you have a place to store them (chiller)

 

[willowbank]

What does you permission letter say (mine says permission to shoot deer on xyz farm)
also have you deer on your fac and do you have a place to store them (chiller)

That’s what I said lol…

WB

 

[Mike L]

That’s what I said lol…

WB

Maybe you are on ignore ?

 

[Tim.243]

That’s what I said lol…

WB

I was going to add when pigeons fly over the boundary I shoot them as well, there is also if one runs back to the estate (as they do) now what does he do?

 

[slider]

Deer belong to no-one except the landowner ther die on.

 

[angel eyes]

Thanks, my permission letter saying, pest and vermin control, AOLQ, my rifles all conditioned for deer on my ticket, would the farm need to have shooting rights? Even if deer wander over from the estate? Farmer doesnt want them, competing with his herd of cattle once soring comes

 

[angel eyes]

Spring

 

[slider]

If the farmer has the shooting rights then crack on.
If he owns the farm its highly likely he has these rights, but its not a foregone conclusion so check.
If he is a tenant he If unlikely to have the shooting rights but may still be able to cull deer if they are causing serous damage to his crops.

 

[Heym SR20]

Make sure they are in season as its an offence to shoot them out of season, or outwith legal shooting hours.

There are defences for shooting out of season, but these are defences and you need to have clear and unequivocal evidence to support the need to shoot out of season.

 

[bottletopbill]

A farm permission i have, deer have started wandering over from an estate. Basically can i shoot them? Im thinking maybe notOr do we have to go down the path of shootings rights. Hope this makes sense

ENJOY yourself fill the freezer

 

[SikaSeeker]

No one owns the deer, they belong to themselves. If they are on ground you have permission to shoot on, then fill your boots.

 

[angel eyes]

Thanks everyone, iv made an enquiry, the farm is owned by the family, BUT dont have the shooting rights, but surely if deer are on your land they can be culled?

 

[Heym SR20]

Thanks everyone, iv made an enquiry, the farm is owned by the family, BUT dont have the shooting rights, but surely if deer are on your land they can be culled?

If they don’t have the shooting rights then they only be culled if they are doing serious damage and other preventable measures have been tried and failed.

If someone else has the shooting rights, then they have the legal right to shoot the deer. They will be paying the sporting rates on the land, so have an ongoing cost of owning those rights. I suspect they would be somewhat unhappy if you started shooting the deer.

Shooting deer where you do not have lawful authority is a breech of the Firearms Act.

 

[Tim.243]

Thanks everyone, iv made an enquiry, the farm is owned by the family, BUT dont have the shooting rights, but surely if deer are on your land they can be culled?

They are wild, also they have the right to protect their investment, you have the paperwork for what you quoted, get it changed If the owner can justify the damage (I would say not if it is just grass)
The other way is get them to follow it back and find out who has the paperwork and put the question to them.

 

[VSS]

Thanks everyone, iv made an enquiry, the farm is owned by the family, BUT dont have the shooting rights, but surely if deer are on your land they can be culled?

Yes they can, even if the shooting rights belong to someone else. But probably only by the landowner himself, or someone employed by him to do it, for crop protection etc.
So if he pays you (a nominal sum, or by letting you keep the carcasses) you can cull the deer. But you can't stop the holder of the shooting rights from also shooting the deer, which could lead to conflict if you happen both to be there at the same time.

Incidentally, if the landowner doesn't own the shooting rights, how have they already given you permission to shoot there?