Divide and Conquer

dieseldan

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Who is the 8th largest landowner in Scotland?????

Here is a clue

They own 124,000 acres and hate deer stalkers.
 

Salmo Salar

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And the country is a poorer place because of it.
The basic principle of the RSPB is a good one but they have completely lost sight of that now.
 

dieseldan

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divided

RSPB is off course the correct answer.

Wouldn't it be nice to have single organisation the put our views forward and made punched above its weight politically instead of the self serving shite we have at the moment??
 

Salmo Salar

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It certainly would, the countrysports person as it is just now, is living in fear of the conservationists and antis mainly because we dont have a strong enough lobby in the political system. The countryside has been looked after in the main very well before the emergence of these bodies. Now in many places its struggling if not dying.
 

bambislayer

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I am in no way a fan of the rspb, but where is the evidence of hatred for stalkers?

They do employ stalkers as well as contracters and many of their wardens and rangers take part in deer management .

All their reserves that have deer present have management plans in place, some of the frst in the country. They also control feral goats, something that they have had a fair amount of flack for.

While RSPB do nothing for the wider shooting community , I do not think that stalkers have anything to worry about.

If we are going to attack them , then lets get our facts right first.
 

Salmo Salar

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Bambislayer, if you knew their Abernethy reserve before they took it over you may change your opinion. There management plan there has been to eradicate the deer - not so much of a management plan an extermination plan and if you were a stalker on the neighbouring estate this year you would have been more than worried at the lack of deer. That is a fact - but only of there reserve at Nethy Bridge as for there other reserves I cannot comment.
 

bambislayer

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I new the Estate and the old stalker Charlie very well.

Their are many things about RSPB that I despise , but it was not only RSPB who were shooting large amounts of deer in the area, FC, HIE[reindeer farmers] Rothiemurchus all were involved.
 

dieseldan

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RSPB

I don not despise the RSPB in either.

i think they are very clever as I have outlined that in my post. They represent the twitchers and and the animals they care about very very well.

I will amend my post to say they hate gamekeepers instead of stalkers and it might be a better statement for the pedantic amoung us.
 

bambislayer

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Hi Dan

I hope I didn't come across as being pedantic because I wasn't trying to be.
RSPB are pro-stalking , but I'm afraid gamekeepers are not viewed in the same way :(
 

Monkey Spanker

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RSPB

I'm not sure the RSPB hate deer stalkers and it is probably unfair to tar them all with the same brush.
A wood next to some of my ground is a RSPB nature reserve and I assumed that deer would also be on the welcome list. However, the place is riddled with Muntjac which are reknowned for reducing the under-storey of the woodland as high as they can reach. This is exactly the area where all of the ground birds like to live and nest! As a result, a deer group was formed (in conjunction with the DI I believe!) and the muntjac and most of the Roe were removed. When you eventually get Muntjac in your area, and the bottom of the woods disappears their views towards deer may well change. ;)
 

dieseldan

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RSPB

Interesting views

Nice to hear from those who have experience of the RSPB and can shed light on the bigger picture.

I actually love watching the wild birdlife when i am out, I am a wildlife enthusiast above all else, which i would suppose we all are.
 
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