Dogs chasing deer

crookie66

Member
I was out yesterday afternoon and decided to sit up a highseat and see what was about, after about half an hour, I could hear some dogs barking, then a roe deer appeared running up the boundary hedge/ ditch with 2 jack Russell's in hot pursuit on the neighbours side.
the dogs were grabbing the deers legs, and the deer would stop, then they released it and barked at it until it ran again, this happened several times before the deer went down and screeched when the dogs grabbed it by the neck.
i unload and got down from the seat and approached on my side of the boundary as an out of breath owner of the dogs appeared, he got hold of the dogs just as I got to the scene and I aired my opinion to him of the events quite clearly.
i asked him several times where the deer was and he said it had ran into the nearby wood 100 yrds away when he got the dogs of off the deer, I was not convinced and could hear a noise 20 yrds away in the ditch, so I looked in from my side, while the guy walked away dragging the 2 terriers, and found the deer exhausted led in the ditch with its head swaying from side to side, it didn't try to move when I was next to it so I despatched it immediately.
the deer had bite marks on all its lower legs and blood coming from neck wounds and its nose and mouth.
on inspection the deer appeared to be a last years fawn and was quite skinny, I gralloched it and there were no concerns on the internals, maybe a little sign of pneumonia but nothing else.

should I report the dogs owner and who to ?
can the deer go into the food chain ( it was despatched by a shot all be at very close range) ?
anything else I should do ?
 

devilishdave

Well-Known Member
Sounds like you shot it on the wrong side of the fence? if that's the case you could end up in a deal of trouble if you are too vocal about the issue unless you know the owner of the land and you are confident they would be happy with your actions. The deer belongs to your neighbour.

Dave
 

deerstalker.308

Well-Known Member
Agree with devilishdave, unless you had permission, you committed a big no no. Also, member since 07, but 3 posts and no sign of an intro......?
 

crookie66

Member
I have permission from the neighbour to follow and despatch deer if required on his land. the hedge / ditch set up is as follows from my side a stock fence, then hedge,then brook then a hedge and stock fence on the neighbours, I checked with my landowner last night and he confirmed that the ditch centreline is the boundary.
i also let the neighbour know last night what had happened and he had no complaints about my actions.
 

roedeerred

Well-Known Member
unfortunately out of control dogs do this sort of think often ,yet there is very little you can do apart from report the matter to the police who may warn the dogs owner about trespass and allowing dogs in there charge to cause unnesacry suffering to a wild animal.
It is something RSPCA should be chasing but I bet they would not.
 

csl

Administrator
Site Staff
Well done for ending the deer's suffering.

I'm wondering if it was already sick or wounded though as I wouldn't have thought Jack Russells would normally be able to keep up with a healthy roe deer would they? :-|

Alex
 

Cadex

Well-Known Member
Well done for ending the deer's suffering.

I'm wondering if it was already sick or wounded though as I wouldn't have thought Jack Russells would normally be able to keep up with a healthy roe deer would they? :-|

Alex
That was my initial thoughts as well. . . My GWP can't look near catching a healthy roe let alone a Jack Russel.
A wounded one is a different story but not a healthy beast.
 

CharlieT

Well-Known Member
Well done for ending the deer's suffering.

I'm wondering if it was already sick or wounded though as I wouldn't have thought Jack Russells would normally be able to keep up with a healthy roe deer would they? :-|

Alex
No way would they. In the days when it was legal it took the buckhounds some considerable time to bring one to bay.
 

roedeerred

Well-Known Member
Possibly tapped by a Car we've had lot of roe killed recently on the roads around here two just outside the village this week and I have shot three for local farmers which have been badly injured within five miles of here in the last month I think its because does are moving about more looking for better food.
Still no excuse for dogs being allowed to chase.
 

Monkey Spanker

Well-Known Member
You did the right thing and the boundary issue is contentious! There is a clause that says something like you are allowed to carry out a humane dispatch on someones land if you believed they would not mind you doing so for welfare reasons! Probably a very grey area and not tested by law, but I doubt any court would prosecute you in the circumstances described.
As for the dogs?
It clearly wasn't intentional or a case of 'hunting with dogs', and I doubt 2 terriers would get close to a fit and healthy Roe which would be about 8 months old? Sounds to me like it was already in bad shape and they unknowingly assisted with a humane dispatch? Almost nature's intention? Not ideal for sure, but a good end result.
Case closed I'd say.
MS
 

hole shot

Well-Known Member
Pedantic I know but the deer actually belong to the person who shoots or takes the deer legally.

or is that just this side of the wall?
The deer belongs to the person that owns the ground on which the animal died That is my understanding of the law on the north side of the wall Also under SNH guidelines you have a duty to dispatch the animal to prevent suffering by the most humane method possible
 

Rake Aboot

Well-Known Member
Well. I doubt the guy was out coursing with two Jack Russels.

I`m sure he was as embarrassed as he should have been. If two terriers caught a Roe, then I`d accept it wasn`t fit and I wouldn`t make the effort to get somebody in trouble for it.
 

Woodsmoke

Well-Known Member
If they'd been chasing a cat or rabbit I doubt anyone would've blinked an eye? I'm not a fan of JRTs, but it is their nature to chase. Surprised they managed to run a roe down though, so perhaps (as mentioned) it'd been swiped by a car, or some other unknown mishap. I'd have had no second thoughts about dispatching over the boundary either. You need to do what's right and appropriate to end the animals suffering, so I reckon you did the decent thing :thumb: I'd be inclined to use the meat for the dogs though?
 

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