Ebay now applying import duty ??

[photopro]

It seems that some foreign sellers - in my case a guy from the USA - have signed up to an agreement with Ebay which gives "customs services and international tracking provided" this is bo11ocks as the purchase has nothing to do with Ebay. I can well imagine saying to customs or the carriers that the duty has been paid via Ebay which of course they would accept - NOT !!

I would advise people to check if this charge is being made and avoid the sellers which it applies to.

 

[Jager SA]

Unbelievable, like you say total Bo llox, who do they think they are? Customs aren't going to swallow that for sure! Looks like using evil bay will die a slow death, for me for sure.

 

[bobjs]

just like all the others.


money money money.



sack it..................breathe deeply it's still free...................but for how long.

bob.

 

[mack8317]

bought goods from the US recently on e-bay and import duty was prepaid seemed to work and the tracking for very good no complaints saves paying a handling charge to Royal mail

 

[Paul 600]

Cabelas do it.

 

[Norrie1956]

I've been a seller and a buyer on Ebay for over 10 years, with over 1600 great deals....and now getting sick to the back teeth with them....wont be long till I'm not on it at all...

 

[Jager SA]

Can someone explain how a foreign company can charge import duty for goods destined elsewhere? I just don't get it and it be long before there will be an additional charge for the charge that is being applied from HMRC.

Enough is enough surely!

 

[smullery]

Same as Orvis and a lot of other non sporting websites. They give you the shopping experience you would expect from your own country.

You buy from a UK website the final checkout price is exactly that, final.

You buy from a EU website the same.

USA retailers can give you a VAT and Duty inclusive price plus shipping same as if you are buying from UK/EU as they operate a system that works with UK/EU Cstoms etc. The price you pay is final.

Stan

 

[Jager SA]

Guess trip to the US are on the cards again.

 

[Lateral]

This, or similar happens on Amazon too. I bought a pair of boots from the US last week, and the duty, & vat was added.

"Personal hat on", yes it's going to cost more to bring things in, but in reality, I buy little from the US, and I prefer to buy locally, knowing it's much less hassle if things go wrong, and I need back up, support, or to return an item under warranty. And for the odd thing I do bring in,

Wearing my "business hat", I'm all for it, and I'm pretty sure all other UK businesses will look forward to the day ALL imports have duty, & VAT applied, so that we can compete on a level playing field, instead of having to compete with "Ebayers, and alike", who cheat the system, pay no tax, and undermine legitimate UK businesses ! That does of course exclude the legitimate businesses who use Ebay, etc'.

People need to realize that UK companies are not trying to rip off UK customers, in many cases, they will actually be paying the same, if not more for goods, than someone bypassing the system will pay, and have no choice, but to charge a higher price.

If this becomes the standard, it means that it won't be worth people personally importing, and the business will go to UK companies, and boosting the economy at the same time.

 

[smullery]

Guess trip to the US are on the cards again.

Jager SA,

So if US Customs offer you a means of selling to US customers where you can include the cost of US duties etc. in your bill to US customers and you pay that amount to them at time of shipping ( because you've already got the money from your US client) you would tell them no way? You would leave your US Customer to sort this out themselves rather than the product you sell just arrive on your customers doorstep with nothing to pay?

​Stan

 

[smullery]

It seems that some foreign sellers - in my case a guy from the USA - have signed up to an agreement with ebay which gives "customs services and international tracking provided" this is bo11ocks as the purchase has nothing to do with Ebay. I can well imagine saying to customs or the carriers that the duty has been paid via Ebay which of course they would accept - NOT !!

I would advise people to check if this charge is being made and avoid the sellers which it applies to.

Photopro,

Ebay have long offered this service to those who choose to operate an Ebay shop. They get all the benefits of a normal retailer in that there is a seamless transaction between the customer and the shop. Ebay pay HMRC in the case of the UK. The customer gets the same experience as if buying off a UK web company.

​Stan

 

[enfieldspares]

I have written to HMRC about just this earlier in the year. Am not at home but will cut and paste the correspondence late Tuesday. HMRC state that there is no such agreement between eBay and HMRC nor, indeed between US Customs and HMRC.

The close of my reply from HMRC was that if you use this supposed service and make a believed up front payment that IT WILL NOT discharge your liability to UK import duties. In fact the reply goes as far to caution that you will risk "paying twice".

What we need to do, as I have done, is contact BBC Watchdog and also HMRC. Otherwise eBay, unchallenged and with no negative publicity, will continue to peddle this fiction.

 

[Jager SA]

I have written to HMRC about just this earlier in the year. Am not at home but will cut and paste the correspondence late Tuesday. HMRC state that there is no such agreement between eBay and HMRC nor, indeed between US Customs and HMRC.

The close of my reply from HMRC was that if you use this supposed service and make a believed up front payment that IT WILL NOT discharge your liability to UK import duties. In fact the reply goes as far to caution that you will risk "paying twice".

What we need to do, as I have done, is contact BBC Watchdog and also HMRC. Otherwise eBay, unchallenged and with no negative publicity, will continue to peddle this fiction.

At last, sense is being made here! No way no how could evilBay collect monies on behalf of HMRC, it's farcical!

 

[RickoShay]

"Grey imports" may seem good for customers in the UK on the surface, but the bottom line is you are killing a UK supplier somewhere along the line because import duty and charges are being bypassed. Ironic given that much of the US stuff is mass produced in that hypocrisy the People's Republic of China and then sent on to here - don't think for a minute the yanks would buy it!
"If it ain't German I'm not shooting it" (wonderful dual purpose there for those that like that sort of thing)

 

[smullery]

I have written to HMRC about just this earlier in the year. Am not at home but will cut and paste the correspondence late Tuesday. HMRC state that there is no such agreement between eBay and HMRC nor, indeed between US Customs and HMRC.

The close of my reply from HMRC was that if you use this supposed service and make a believed up front payment that IT WILL NOT discharge your liability to UK import duties. In fact the reply goes as far to caution that you will risk "paying twice".

What we need to do, as I have done, is contact BBC Watchdog and also HMRC. Otherwise eBay, unchallenged and with no negative publicity, will continue to peddle this fiction.

When I buy from Cabelas, Mossy Oak, JC Penney, Ross Reels, Guide, Wilson, Orvis etc. in the USA they all have an International shipping option that includes duties and sales tax for recipient's country.

At checkout this is calculated and I pay. My invoice shows the Duty and VAT amounts.

Goods arrive and neither Parcelforce, UPS or FedEx get any money out of me.

Now, maybe it's the carrier that's handling the UK payment but it makes no difference to me.

​Stan

 

[Jager SA]

Jager SA,

So if US Customs offer you a means of selling to US customers where you can include the cost of US duties etc. in your bill to US customers and you pay that amount to them at time of shipping ( because you've already got the money from your US client) you would tell them no way? You would leave your US Customer to sort this out themselves rather than the product you sell just arrive on your customers doorstep with nothing to pay?

​Stan

I'm not responsible for another countries duties to be paid just like I have pay here I'd expect them to to do so. As for Evilbay collecting for HMRC, what a croc! As has been said this needs challenging because you are responsible for HMRC monies regardless of any so called payment collected by evilbay!

I used Evilbay for a lot of stuff I can't get here and it's not all shooting related!

 

[smullery]

I'm not responsible for another countries duties to be paid just like I have pay here I'd expect them to to do so. As for Evilbay collecting for HMRC, what a croc! As has been said this needs challenging because you are responsible for HMRC monies regardless of any so called payment collected by evilbay!

I used Evilbay for a lot of stuff I can't get here and it's not all shooting related!

Jager SA,

I sell into Russia and offer the service to my customers that door to door service includes all duties and taxes. I use DHL and they quote me a price that includes all this. My clients pay me and the goods turn up on their door with nothing more to pay.

My business is growing because of customer service. I could just ship after receiving my base price invoice but then my clent's have the issue of clearing customs.

​Stan

 

[Jager SA]

Jager SA,

I sell into Russia and offer the service to my customers that door to door service includes all duties and taxes. I use DHL and they quote me a price that includes all this. My clients pay me and the goods turn up on their door with nothing more to pay.

My business is growing because of customer service. I could just ship after receiving my base price invoice but then my clent's have the issue of clearing customs.

​Stan

Intersting, so how do you pay the Governments you ship too and who calculates what is due, and if the calculation is incorrect who picks up the shortfall?

 

[smullery]

Intersting, so how do you pay the Governments you ship too and who calculates what is due, and if the calculation is incorrect who picks up the shortfall?

When I sell DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) I submit my request to my shipper. They then tell me what all the charges are. I bill my client, he pays me and I ship. The invoice I get from my shipper matches the quote and I pay the shipper, nett 30. Shipper sorts out clearance at other end.

Reverse obviously applies when buying from Amazon, Cabelas etc. They work out costs and pay at clearance this end.

Customer service.

​Stan