FC Event, Managing Deer Across The English Landscape, Hampshire, Tues 1st Oct '24

[wytonpjs]

Indeed, that probably made up 70% of the attendees at the last two years' - but there was plenty of self funding part time stalkers there/going who had/have to take a day's holiday off work (like me!)

Me too

 

[Tyla]

Anyone going from Mid Sussex?

 

[devon deer stalker]

At £99.29 a ticket, I would expect to come away with my own pet wolf..



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Are they really paying 2 people to talk about Wolves?
Ask the ranchers in Montana, I was told to SSS when I went over by the ranchers, but I did it the legal way, heard them at night but didn't see one

 

[Alastair Boston]

I see tickets are now available on eventbrite via this link:

Managing Deer Across The English Landscape

England’s largest one day deer conference

www.eventbrite.com

There are still some tickets left for this event,there will be some interesting talks through out the day.

 

[Ronin]

Don’t know why folk are questioning the price

There are some very knowledgable speakers delivering the lectures over a seven hour period

Having worked with a few of them I can’t recommend them highly enough

For the cost of a mornings roe stalking or a tank of fuel

Dig deep boys f f s

 

[David Barker]

Don’t know why folk are questioning the price

There are some very knowledgable speakers delivering the lectures over a seven hour period

Having worked with a few of them I can’t recommend them highly enough

For the cost of a mornings roe stalking or a tank of fuel

Dig deep boys f f s

Because we are in a recession or have you been on a different planet. No matter how you look at this it is expensive. The speakers must be charging way to much for there services.

 

[wytonpjs]

Because we are in a recession or have you been on a different planet. No matter how you look at this it is expensive. The speakers must be charging way to much for there services.

Or the venue costs, overheads, etc. Indeed, are the fare paying attendees subsidising the FC attendance I wonder As per my comments at #12 and #21 I'd love to attend but it do deer (sic) for me

 

[Ronin]

Because we are in a recession or have you been on a different planet. No matter how you look at this it is expensive. The speakers must be charging way to much for there services.

No, not on a different planet - that’s why I hold down two jobs and have done so since pre covid

Folk whitter about the cost of things yet do nothing to change their prospects or are prepared to pay for training - something that we can all benefit from

This course is the price of a tank of fuel, two family takeaways or a few boxes of ammunition

Whichever way I look at it - £100 for a full days training is reasonable

 

[pendle]

Don’t know why folk are questioning the price

There are some very knowledgable speakers delivering the lectures over a seven hour period

Having worked with a few of them I can’t recommend them highly enough

For the cost of a mornings roe stalking or a tank of fuel

Dig deep boys f f s

I went to the last one it was great.
But being out of work. Charity and stalking starts at home

 

[Ronin]

I don’t think any one would expect someone without means to attend a paying event

 

[pendle]

I don’t think any one would expect someone without means to attend a paying event

I would still want to attend with being a contractor in North wales
Yrs ago the FC used to do a subsidy on courses etc if the person worked in the forestry sector.

 

[NickJ]

Because we are in a recession or have you been on a different planet. No matter how you look at this it is expensive. The speakers must be charging way to much for there services.

And yet stalker’s will pay more than that for one Swarovski scope cap or 1.5 boxes or bullets.

I think it’s a reasonable cost for stalkers’ to improve their knowledge and keep up to date with current affairs, be part of a good forum etc, an investment rather than just to do something to get a ticket ‘because you have to’

As I understand the speakers do not charge a fee but their travel expenses and hotel and meals are paid for. There is a lot of speakers.
The event travels around the country with a different location each year, this time it’s the turn of the south of Englans. A part of the world where hotels and venues are expensive.

The tea, coffee and lunch that is included would probably cost you £25 in a nice hotel in Hampshire.

 

[NickJ]

Are they really paying 2 people to talk about Wolves?
Ask the ranchers in Montana, I was told to SSS when I went over by the ranchers, but I did it the legal way, heard them at night but didn't see one

As I understand it they don't pay any speakers, just here travel expenses, hotel & meals. Not cheap in Hampshire.

I would assume it's like David Hetherington, the speaker they had on Lynx last year, he did his PhD on a study. At no point did he propose releasing lynx, just gave a very balanced view on how they behave in Scandinavia etc from other studys.

As an aside, all of the German, Croatians, Scandis etc I meet say the wolf protection there is far too high, they need to be managed as numbers are increasing and they are having a large effect on the deer etc numbers

 

[NickJ]

I would still want to attend with being a contractor in North wales
Yrs ago the FC used to do a subsidy on courses etc if the person worked in the forestry sector.

Indeed it's a shame the FC could not get it added to the FC Grant funding for training for Continued Learning or for pros CPD a la DSC1 & 2 and the BDS DM course but I think they did try

 

[devon deer stalker]

As an aside, all of the German, Croatians, Scandis etc I meet say the wolf protection there is far too high, they need to be managed as numbers are increasing and they are having a large effect on the deer etc numbers

Thanks for the info.

The trouble with wolves is that they are far to good at what they do.
They don't just eat deer as you know, everything else with 4 legs is on the menu.

 

[Ratel]

I'm sure they will this year.

As for others comments on fees: I don't work for the FC, I haven't for 29 years, however I have organised a number of similar events in Deer Management and other sectors and if you take into account:

1. The time spent organising it (FC Deer Officers)
2. The venue hire inc refreshments, serving the lunch, washing up..)
3. The speaker (see below list) costs (hotel, dinner, mileage, fees..)

Then I'd imagine the entry cost will not even cover their costs, they need sponsorship to get them near it

• Interpreting Thermal Drone Data - Ben Harrower (BH Wildlife)
• TB & Deer - Peter Green MRCVS (Veterinary Surgeon)
• Managing Deer on the RSPB Estate - David Morris
• Deer in England, the last 1000 years? – Professor Naomi Sykes
• iDeer Project Dr Becks Spake (University of Reading)
• Deer diet project, Dr Lucie Jerabkova and James Upson (FE)
• Wolves: Can They Help Control Deer Numbers? – Robin Rigg & Richard Morley
• Deer Licensing- Dr Rodney Calvert, Natural England
• Advances in deer management policy, practice and technology in Scotland– Doug Knox FLS

Surely no cost for the FC (govt employee). Officers, it's part of their job, what would they be doing if not this.

 

[David Barker]

I have ran many events in Scotland including a 50 seat 5 course meal talk with the then minister for the environment. Total cost £900. All the others were free of charge. some events having more than 100 attendees.

 

[Ronin]

David.

Don’t quarrel about this but your events were half the size of the forthcoming FE event and based in Scotland with less overheads than the event in question

We’ve already established that the refreshments account for a fifth of the cost factor in room hire and other overheads it is still cheap value for money given there is eight hours of lectures

Look at other courses advertised on this forum 100-150 per day

Given the quality of input and content this event is reasonably priced

 

[AGR]

As an aside, all of the German, Croatians, Scandis etc I meet say the wolf protection there is far too high, they need to be managed as numbers are increasing and they are having a large effect on the deer etc numbers

My Danish friend tells me that they also have an effect on farm livestock, never mind the deer.

 

[David Barker]

David.

Don’t quarrel about this but your events were half the size of the forthcoming FE event and based in Scotland with less overheads than the event in question

We’ve already established that the refreshments account for a fifth of the cost factor in room hire and other overheads it is still cheap value for money given there is eight hours of lectures

Look at other courses advertised on this forum 100-150 per day

Given the quality of input and content this event is reasonably priced