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Firearms certificate
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What act says dsc is required for deer calibres? They still do it
Its all a try on. They get away with it if people dont contest itWhat act says dsc is required for deer calibres? They still do it
100% correct but what do folk do ? Roll over
When I applied for my certificate, I wasn’t told to get DSC but I already had it booked because a permission I had required it. The firearms officer was impressed with this, I had all my permissions printed off and signed highlighting all boundaries.What act says dsc is required for deer calibres? They still do it
He didn’t even check my cabinet, quick chat check my paperwork job done.
I totally understand rifles in the wrong hands are very very dangerous. But I think if you are prepared and don’t give them a reason to say no it’s not that bad of a process
( I’ve found that with my limited dealings with humberside)
Your authority to possess the firearm ended when you sold it, so you need the 1 for 1 to replace it, as frustrating as it is. Not so i believe in Northern Ireland where you can dispose of one and buy another without the need for a 1 for 1.
Fingers crossed the complete the 1. for 1 quickly for you.
That’s great but nowhere in guidance does it mention dsc , FEOs who refuse to grant without it should be taken to task
I agree with you ,but I do think beating them at their own game is sometimes easier. Be 100% prepared and have answers to questions before they are asked
BenBhoy
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How are you beating them if complying with unnecessary demands ?
I do think there's something about the firearms manager, Chief Officer, big decision maker, whoever, can make any requests or conditions relating to the FAC, and you can't appeal them.
Para 10.10 to 10.15 of the guidance and Section 27(2) of the 1968 Act.
They don’t want you to have firearms so if I have everything in place needed or not ,they can’t make it harder because I’ve got all the boxes ticked.
I understand what you are saying
“ why should we have to do unnecessary tasks”Beating them at their own game is maybe the wrong phrase. But if PC plod is set on making it difficult with questions and I’m prepared for all eventualities it’s making it hard for him to say no
Pointing him to the guidelines is also hard for him to say no , the simple question “ can you point me out in the guidelines where it says I need dsc “ should work
Like this bit:
Seems to give a wide carte blanche. Not specific to the DSC, but it could include mentoring or anything else.HO Guidance said:
I get that but to me it’s a cop out if we don’t challenge things where does it end ?
I agree with you on challenging, but they can use this as a get out of jail card, so to speak, in this instance.
It's better to challenge on things like the 'only 7 days to apply for 1-4-1' when you can quote the paragraph that actually says there is no set time for applying for a replacement 1-4-1 firearm. That gets them sweating, especially when they have to write it down in their reply.
If you read post #25 again (ie, the post that you were responding to) you will see that @MarkL made it quite clear that he was NOT told that he would have to get DSC1.
Absolutely they should.
Received email off Humberside police asking for £47 because I’ve gone over the 7 days notice.,
I contacted BASC and they said yes this is correct
The guidance says 7 days or a reasonable time period the time period is left to the discretion of the individual force.
palmer_mike
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Hate to say I told you so. Are you going to pay?
I sent a reply saying could they clarify what they deem a reasonable time period.
It’s the same calibre I already had and I won’t be increasing the number of firearms I own.
I didn’t intend to get a new 6.5x55 but circumstances have changed so I guess if I want it I’m going to have to pay the £47
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