Fixed power scopes. Old Kahles or S&B or new GPO?

Makes sense. But you hear a lot about modern coatings and how they improve light transmission (🤷) or is that to make up for the glass quality? I can see how it helps with reflections, flare etc, although how adding something to the surface let’s more light through is harder to understand.
Coatings are a cheap way of improving cheap glass / plastics.

High quality lenses have been around for a long time. But they required expensive glass and then a lot of skill and time to make.

Top end glass has not really improved. But the lower end optically are now so much better - and thats what sells.

But optics are just one part of the scope. More important for consistent accuracy is the quality of assembly, especially all the aiming devices under the turrets. It’s here that quality still counts.

Leupolds have always been very good scopes and have a good reputation for durability and ability to hold zero. Difference between a Leupold and say S&B is the image. Leupold to my eyes seem to have a flat almost matt image. S&B is bright and glossy. And I have always found Leupolds to be fussy about the eye position. They have a short eye box. German / Austrian scopes seem to be more fore-giving.

American hunting laws don’t allow shooting at first and last light - I think legal shooting starts and stops at sunrise and sunset.

In Germany they shoot a lot of Boar under the moon, and until recently you were not allowed to use any form of artificial light or image intensifying device. But with a good scope you don’t really need that - with a 6x42 or 8x56 and good 4A reticle shooting Boar at night on grass, stubble or against snow is not an issue.
 
Personally I'd buy a used S&B 8x56, they are so robust they last for ever so used is fine, for the extra £100 I'd go German over Hungarian, you'll be glad of the very slight extra light gathering performance which I assume is relevant if you are going for an illuminated reticle
 
Personally I'd buy a used S&B 8x56, they are so robust they last for ever so used is fine, for the extra £100 I'd go German over Hungarian, you'll be glad of the very slight extra light gathering performance which I assume is relevant if you are going for an illuminated reticle
i always wondered if they were different - mine is west Germany
 
All really interesting and helpful. Thank you. German S&B 6x sounds like a good investment.

I’ve often wondered why US scopes and reviews don’t refer to low light performance. They seem only secondarily interested in glass quality in general.

The Leupold has been ok but the other evening I just could not make out a muntjac (seen in the thermal), albeit in moderate cover, and I thought a scope with better contrast and light transmission might have helped. Either that or an Alpex!

But I may come back here when I have some experience with the GPO.
 
i always wondered if they were different - mine is west Germany
I have to admit it's only based on personal experience, I used a Hungarian S&B very happily for many years but when I bought another rifle with a German version on the only difference I noticed was at first/last light, that of course is the measure of the best glass mind of course
 
Nearly 20 years a 6x42 S&B on my 308 BSA cf2 and havnt found it wanting.
The good thing is theres nothing to mess around with, just point and shoot.
The reticule allows for approximate distance judging of Roe.
Shot Roe to 230yds with this setup.

Having said all that, WTF have i just put on a Zeiss 3-12 x56!
Its a FFP reticule and pretty much matches the S&B so still OK for distance judging whatever the magnification.
Apart from the fact it is a bulkier scope the increased height is not the best as my cheek is almost off the stock now.
Lets see how i get on.
I can still revert back!
 
I’ve found the Swarovski 8x50 to be the sweet spot, they’re a similar length to a S&B 6x42 however only 400g.

The S&B 8x56 while very good optically is a big and heavy scope.

I’d like to try the S&B 7x50 however they very rarely come up for sale.
 
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