Fixing sling stud

Jamesy13

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Hi there.
The fore end sling stud has come out of my Cz 527 wooden lux stock. The hole has worn too wide and the stud has fallen out. I got it tight using match sticks but want a permanent fix. Any advise would be appreciated.

Cheers
Gwyn
 
Either fill the area a little with some epoxy, or if you don't want to mess with that stuff, use some baking soda & superglue to make a strong area to fit the screw back into
 
Hi there.
The fore end sling stud has come out of my Cz 527 wooden lux stock. The hole has worn too wide and the stud has fallen out. I got it tight using match sticks but want a permanent fix. Any advise would be appreciated.

Cheers
Gwyn

Have a look on line for a stud with a nut which you can inset on the inside of the fore end below the barrel. I wouldn’t want to trust a filler to retain the stud if the original wood didn’t manage it.

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Alan
 
Permanent fix is to put a plate in the barrel inlet (inletted in) and glued

This is the tapped for the sling stud which is then threaded into it after filling the hole a little with suitable epoxy and wood dust to match the stock
 
Have a look on line for a stud with a nut which you can inset on the inside of the fore end below the barrel. I wouldn’t want to trust a filler to retain the stud if the original wood didn’t manage it.



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Alan
Would you still use an apoxy?
 
Permanent fix is to put a plate in the barrel inlet (inletted in) and glued

This is the tapped for the sling stud which is then threaded into it after filling the hole a little with suitable epoxy and wood dust to match the stock
Thanks for the info, would you mind explaining more as I’m not 100% understanding
 
As others have said, a stud that screws into an inletted plate or nut is the best solution, but failing that an epoxy glue will do.
I used Araldite on mine, and they haven't budged.
 
Permanent fix is to put a plate in the barrel inlet (inletted in) and glued

This is the tapped for the sling stud which is then threaded into it after filling the hole a little with suitable epoxy and wood dust to match the stock
Just done something similar with the front - it’s always the front - stud on an air rifle. But rather than use a steel plate I opened up the hole that recieves the captive nut by half the forend depth with a forstner bit, filled half full with Devcon and then drilled a suitably undersized hole to receive the nut with interference fit. I then poured more Devcon over the nut and stud and when cured sanded back to level of inner forend wood.

If you figure you’ll want to remove the stud at some future point omit the final stage.

K
 
As others have said, the best fore end studs have a nut on the inside to provide strength. Make sure the nut is recessed so it mates with the wood in a flat way and doesn't touch the barrel. For belt and braces approach you can coat everything with epoxy. The slow setting 24hr stuff is strongest. This approach does require removing the action from the stock, but allows you to check and clean under there. I (lightly) wipe the hidden bits of metal with gun oil and the hidden bits of wood with boiled linseed oil.
 
Take it’s a screw thread rather than a bolt thread?

Would it not be simpler to drill a new undersized hole and fit and fill the old hole?

Obviously checking that the new placement won’t foul the barrel.
 
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Take it’s a screw thread rather than a bolt thread?

Would it not be simpler to drill a new undersized hole and fit and fill the old hole?

Obviously checking that the new placement won’t foul the barrel.
I have twice had to sort out shocking accuracy issues on rifles where this had been done. On the first, the new screw stud poked through into the barrel channel and was tight against the underside of the barrel. On the second, the original recessed nut was still in situ, but rattling around loose in its hole and contacting the underside of the barrel. Both were a simple fix.
As @FISH BOY so rightly says it's important to check, so always remove the rifle from its woodwork to do this kind of job.

(Incidentally, I wouldn't carry it a yard if held together with matchsticks!)
 
Would you still use an apoxy?
No I would rely on the metal. But then I am a metalworker. The epoxy wouldn't add any strength to the nut and bolt, the steel is doing it all...without epoxy you can undo it easily if you need to. If you are worried it might come loose I would use a dab of locktite. The serrated nuts in the illustrations below are so that you can drill a inner diameter hole and pull the nut in to the wood and the serrations bite in and prevent it turning. If you use a standard hex nut you would have to inlet it with a chisel.

Alan


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No I would rely on the metal. But then I am a metalworker. The epoxy wouldn't add any strength to the nut and bolt, the steel is doing it all...without epoxy you can undo it easily if you need to. If you are worried it might come loose I would use a dab of locktite. The serrated nuts in the illustrations below are so that you can drill a inner diameter hole and pull the nut in to the wood and the serrations bite in and prevent it turning. If you use a standard hex nut you would have to inlet it with a chisel.

Alan


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Thanks for the info. I will try that and see how I get on, might have the cut the threaded shaft a little shorter as the forend on a 527 lux is really thin and narrow.
 
My 527 is a bit of a frankestein as I do like modification! I've just fitted some of these quick detach cups fore and aft which are screwed and glued in.



Ive literally hung off them and they don't give. I've done the same on my 452 in .22 and 452 in .17 so one sling does the lot. It appeals to my OCD.......

ATB

Deano
Thanks for your reply. How do they work with a bipod?
 
They are totally separate. I drilled mine into the side of the wooden stock, that way the rifle lays flat on my back. That frees up the bottom of the forestock to install a a more sturdy bipod attachment stud or a section of picitinny or other bipod mount point. I never liked attaching the sling to the bipod as it inevitable gets tangled at the worst possible moment. I've also had one work loose (bad admin on my behalf) and you then get a bipod in the back of the head as your prized rifle plummets to earth.....
 
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