Fox Territory

Most of the local kids around here have their left hands that colour from helping their dads treat sheep's feet!
(Apart from the left handed kids, that is. Their right hands are purple).
Always thought it as Blue.
Kb.
Ps. Think me shed’s gone!
 
There's no doubt that in some areas there are far more foxes than anyone suspects.
I'm out generally five nights a week all year round for a couple of hours and take a lot of foxes within the village boundaries mainly on the chicken farms, but there are always more. The main reason for this is the surrounding area which is large and is comprised of cliff land owned by the RSPB who stopped me from shooting there when they bought it, and a lot of woodland which is owned by people who allow no shooting and considerable acreages of horse type paddocks where again there is no way of controlling them.
It keeps me busy but more and more people buy into the countryside and base their knowledge of it on what they see and hear on the TV. They think this part of Devon is populated by cuddly, furry, friendly creatures, that should be left alone.
 
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I expect everything's kept under lock and key these days. In fact, I doubt kids get the chance to mess around with chemicals at all in science lessons these days.
 
In most cases once foxes are taken out of an area others move in to fill that territory.
They are constantly moving sometimes many miles in a nightime trek using regular routes usually to different food sources or hunting grounds.
During lambing time here I’ve known of the same problem fox travelling large distances to kill lambs.
 
It would be interesting to put a radio transmitter on one to see how far they actually go in an evening and where their lie up points are during the day.
 
It would be interesting to put a radio transmitter on one to see how far they actually go in an evening and where their lie up points are during the day.
Forget to mention that the work on radio transmitters placed on foxes during the spring & early summer showed quite clearly on a map where their territories were, there were of coarse incursions into others territories, but it was plain to see the areas that they occupied, it was very interesting.
 
Forget to mention that the work on radio transmitters placed on foxes during the spring & early summer showed quite clearly on a map where their territories were, there were of coarse incursions into others territories, but it was plain to see the areas that they occupied, it was very interesting.
Are there any links to that project?
Cheers, Ken.
 
If I remember correctly, one fox travelled 17 miles one night
I heard that too, it was a dog fox I believe after a vixen in season!
We once had a rangey old collie, he was a sod for the ladies he would disappear at night & come back in the morning absolutely useless, knackered & would sleep all day. We got a call from a farmer who had him locked in a shed 8 miles away! he would paw at peoples windows if there was a bitch in there, when they opened the door he would burst in & past them. If he couldn't get in he would take their welly boots away, just one of a pair, they never found them, cost us a fortune in welly boots. I still smile when I think of that dog.
Are there any links to that project?
Cheers, Ken.
I'm sure the GCT would have a copy, it was a long time ago maybe 30 years ago, it was in their annual review . The equiptment they used was pretty primitive back then, something like a tv Ariel & a pair of headphones. Long before GPS, they may have more modern stuff now & updated maps.
 
For anyone interested in the ways of the fox, other than shooting it, this book is a "must-have"

Over the years I've spent countless hours just watching them as well as shooting them, and they are truly fascinating creatures. The arrival of thermal has changed my perception and knowledge of them enormously. I realise now how little I knew about the way they operate in the days, all those years ago, when I made a living from their skins.
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I heard that too, it was a dog fox I believe after a vixen in season!
We once had a rangey old collie, he was a sod for the ladies he would disappear at night & come back in the morning absolutely useless, knackered & would sleep all day. We got a call from a farmer who had him locked in a shed 8 miles away! he would paw at peoples windows if there was a bitch in there, when they opened the door he would burst in & past them. If he couldn't get in he would take their welly boots away, just one of a pair, they never found them, cost us a fortune in welly boots. I still smile when I think of that dog.

I'm sure the GCT would have a copy, it was a long time ago maybe 30 years ago, it was in their annual review . The equiptment they used was pretty primitive back then, something like a tv Ariel & a pair of headphones. Long before GPS, they may have more modern stuff now & updated maps.
They put the tv aerial and headphones on the fox?
Ken.
 
Bit of a long post here, but Ill try to keep it simple. 25 years ago, the GCT did a lot of research on fox movement by radio tracking. Their research was based mainly on predation of wild birds, partridges in particular & did not necessarily apply to reared birds. In short, their research showed that killing foxes at this time of year was basically a waste of time, for 2 reasons. There were so many foxes about that it didn't matter there would be another one soon enough, & also wild birds particularly partridges are well capable of looking after themselves. However.. there research showed that the crucial time for fox control was January to March, when vixens are pregnant, accompanied by dogs & are establishing territories. Foxes in the surrounding areas are doing the same, if you take them out then, than the gap is less likely to be filled, as other foxes in the area have territories too. There will always be a case later on when a vixen will move her cubs in to a vacant area, I have had them move them from over a mile away, but its not usual, unless she senses extreme danger.
So, on my farm 100 hectares, I have a good chance of a pair of breeding foxes. Plus the surrounding 4 sq hectares, I then have a further 4 pairs. Thats 10 foxes plus say a couple more 12-15 foxes. I have 3 months to get rid of them before cubbing & the crops getting too tall.
Heres what happened on my farm. In the first lockdown I invested in NV & a Thermal, the first 2 years I shot 165 foxes, the third year I shot 30, last year I shot 2, this spring time from feb till start September I only saw 3 foxes, I shot 2 of them, old Longarse I left alone, & he leaves me alone, who knows he might even be keeping other dogs away. I shot 9 since harvest, mainly cubs & 2 vixens. Haven't seen one since. It can be done, my nearest town is 3 miles away, & I have a river on one side. Maybe other farmers now are doing there bit, but Ive not heard anything. Also I dont keep stock anymore, lambing & calving time is a fox magnet, they come from far & wide. Hare numbers are now approaching ridiculous, partridge pheasant plovers skylarks are up too. Probably none of this applies if you got poults that need protection in the summer & autumn. the bottom line is .. if you got foxes breeding on or near your patch, you left it too late, stop them & it makes a hell of a difference. I been doing this for half a century but I feel I turned a corner now. It would be good to hear others experiences too. Good luck
I have had a very similar experience.
I purchased nv and thermal maybe 5 or 6 years ago. To begin with we shot foxes that had never been seen previously and achieved consistent numbers for around 3 years,maybe 4, can’t remember. Around 30 per year off around 400ha. But results did then drop off a cliff. In the summer I now shoot hardly any, nor do I see them when I’m combining as I used to.
I do still shoot maybe 6-8 in the winter months when the vixens are calling so they must have moved in around that time.
Shot only 1 since harvest this year!
 
There’s a Facebook group ‘fox stoppers’
This isn’t a criticism but the large numbers that are taken with newer technology is staggering.
I’ve done a substantial amount of lamping over the years and having recently done some with thermal spotter and NV scope it’s totally changed it from years ago.
However there doesn’t appear to be a reduction in foxes in this part of mid wales.
Abundance of food and plenty of cover.
 
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