I will let you know, only just ordered! I have ordered 12 which is quite universally good for me in most.

I'm having issues with my Altbergs which I hope they will resolve, although would probably buy another pair just because they are so comfortable.I think the one thing these boots threads turn up is that different people have wildly varying experiences with the same brand of boots,Dedito seem to be very marmite round here, some love, some hate them.My experience with altberg differs from most on here , I find them comfy but never found them very waterproof.