Help weapons advice

SSB

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The last time I shot was ages ago and it was my mates shotgun, also his FAC air rifle, he had his .22 rim fire.

I am looking to get permission to shoot land up here, So what calibre and makes are best? I will be going after rabbit and other vermin, with the attempt to get fox and my eye on the prize of deer...

I will be looking to have suppressors fitted, yeah I'll get it on the licence application, I am left handed and I prefer to shoot that way. So, what do you say as you all have better experience than I?

17HMR, 22 rimfire, semi automatic or not, 222, 223, 243, 250, even 308. Also considering things like flat trajectories and such.

Honest opinions of preferences please being mindful that I am not a lotto winner, wish I was though... :D

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pheasant sniper 1

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Wait until you get the permissions and see how the land lies which may help in your choice of rifle and calibre.

Might aswell start off with a real mans calibre and go for the .308 :D
 

RickoShay

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Agree on getting permission first, but go for .22LR and 6.5x55mm - don't worry about a .30 cal cannon :)

+1, but would also suggest you take your time as you will need to become more familiar with firearms.
If you're budget is constrained, .22LR ammunition is cheap and abundant.

Buy the best rifle, scope and mounts you can for your budget; which can be found second hand and will retain value as upgrade over time.
I shoot brands such as Sauer, Mauser, Anschutz and all 'just' second hand, also Swaros and S&B scopes.
I'm not familiar with CZ, but from what most post on here they are 'darn good value for money'.
Still think an Anschutz 522/525 semi auto is a great second hand rifle for the money though!

Good luck.
 

Pedro

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem a little inexperienced. Getting ground to shoot on isn't easy anywhere. Perhaps a good way in for you would be to look at some local shoots and perhaps do a bit of beating for them. That will get you into contact with other shooters, you'll likely get a go on beaters' days and more importantly you'll get to know people from the area who shoot and also landowners. You may get to do a bit of vermin control there and from that, things may develop. You may not be interested in pheasant shooting, but it's a means to an end. Many fox shooters, stalkers and other rifle users do take part in that. Then, as has been said, you can get rifles depending on what quarry you are after, ask the questions on here about what calibres are best, light the blue touch paper and retire a safe distance.

It may be best for you to go down the shotgun route initially, so you can demonstrate to potential landowners how safe you are. All the best!
 

AlasdairM

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You should try reading the letter you get from Police Scotland with your first FAC, I will need to look it out but there are several uses of the word weapon.
 
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8x57

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You should try reading the letter you get from Police Scotland with your first FAC, I will need to look it out bit there are several uses of the word weapon.

Then they should be corrected and educated in any replies that you send to them. As the others have already asserted we are sportsmen and we use firearms in our sport, we do not intend to fight a war so do not use weapons.
 

SSB

Member
Point taken on the word weapon, however, a gun is an artillery piece. I am ex Army so my terminology may well be a little different so please be tolerant, I am a fast learner though... I have decent experience of pistol and rifle, but not in the sport sense of which I am a novice. Hence being on here trying to get as much info as possible...

Thanks RickoShay you've helped me out, I'll go check out the kit you've mentioned. The last time I looked lefties are quite hard to get a hold of in the second hand market, but searching will be fun... :D

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I. Farticus

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Point taken on the word weapon, however, a gun is an artillery piece. I am ex Army so my terminology may well be a little different so please be tolerant, I am a fast learner though... I have decent experience of pistol and rifle, but not in the sport sense of which I am a novice. Hence being on here trying to get as much info as possible...

Thanks RickoShay you've helped me out, I'll go check out the kit you've mentioned. The last time I looked lefties are quite hard to get a hold of in the second hand market, but searching will be fun... :D

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Point taken, although "gun" tends to refer to a shotgun. No massive requirement for any artillery pieces - and you're not alone on here being ex-forces. Plenty ex- and current :D

Cheers
iain
 

paul o'

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welcome feller to sd, the lads will get you sorted out as to your needs
we have more ex green and serving on here than you can get in a naafi brew house !
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Sako3006

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Point taken, although "gun" tends to refer to a shotgun. No massive requirement for any artillery pieces - and you're not alone on here being ex-forces. Plenty ex- and current :D

Cheers
iain

Oh I don't know..........I am still trying to get the 18 pounder on my open ticket :p
 

SSB

Member
Thank you guys you have made me chuckle with some of the comments...

I think I'll go down the 22LR route first with suppressor and an FAC air rifle for the vermin. I'll also go for my shotgun ticket, it would be rude not to, after all they can be fun... Then later I think the 243 for larger game..

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Gouldie69

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Thanks RickoShay you've helped me out, I'll go check out the kit you've mentioned. The last time I looked lefties are quite hard to get a hold of in the second hand market, but searching will be fun... :D

SSB

Firstly, welcome.

One of mine is a .17 HMR CZ American (left hand) 16" barrel. I was going to get It in 'Silhouette' which is synthetic stock only to find CZ only do it in .22LR. So do your homework.
16" is good for out of vehicle and in woodlands as its less likely to snag.
21" I believe gives better grouping. (however I don't find I miss many head shots up to 150 yards with 16" and those I do is not down to the equipment!!)
.17 is more prone to effect of wind
.22 moderated is quieter (good for close to built up areas, especially at night)
A .22 will not need cleaning after every outing (some say neither does a .17 but I do which puts 1/2 hr onto every outing.
As previously said, .22LR ammo is cheaper.

Others will add to this, and as said, the land will dictate the most appropriate form of tools for vermin control on said land.

You are right about lefties, but look at it as an opportunity to get a bargain as not many people looking for them so if someone is needing to get rid they may well do a deal to shift it.

Keep us informed.
 

teabag_46

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I got my lefty CZ452 .22 from Edgar Brothers, brand new, screw cut (21" lux) for just under £400 which I considered to be a good deal, as left handed gats often come at premium prices for some reason.
 
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