hiring a trained deer

[rem284]

The fact that the availability of a trained deer dog will be like trying to find hens teeth, would I think, if you really need one then it wouldnt be cheap. I am not trying to get owt from R22 but someone asked the question and it seems to be difficult to answer.

 

[Siggy]

Is it worth asking some shepherds? This kind of situation probably arrises more often in that profession...

 

[countrryboy]

Is it not around £150 per day for pointers at falconry? Best to avoid the money but if you must the same price as fixing a switch in ranger 22 larder.

He is not far away (altjou possibly slightly steep, althou it could well have went up) but thats the ball park for a pointer/hpr+ handler for walked up grouse.
Generally grouse beating/picking u get 50-80 quid in scot.

I suppose u could also look folk picking up who run teams of dogs +4x4 etc and get paid peanuts for doing it, and i've heard further down south some shoots charge pickers up to come!! Just bonkers.
U also have the deer dog boys that would come out for free,

With shooting/stalking prices charges are completely out of touch as many folk would volanteer sometimes at great cost to themselves to do something that others do professionally for a living. So be hard to put a real price on it.

U probably will have to look at other industries where they use/hire dogs out?
How much does a security company charge for a guard dog service?

 

[rem284]

thanks. anybody using security dogs

 

[.25-06]

Ask David Beckham he's just hired some.

thanks. anybody using security dogs

 

[rem284]

Ask David Beckham he's just hired some.

Is he on here

 

[2130martin]

£50/week plus feed etc would seem a fair rate to me...

 

[Siggy]

I vaguely remember the cost of a Guy Wallace trained deer dog was £3000

If for arguments sake this is correct and that the working life of said dog was 8 years, you then get £3000 divided by 8 years divided by 365 days , which rather neatly gives you roughly a pound a day...I assume R22 would be expected to pay food and vet bills for the duration....

 

[daven]

What does the other guy 'need' the dog for? To find deer that he is likely to wound/lose? To be a companion in the field? To use to alert him to the presence of deer? If it is all three - he may as well buy a pup and have the pleasure of training it.

I go back to something I said a little while ago - I am still prepared to be shot down for it - If he 'needs' it purely to find wounded/lost deer, it should not be a regular requirement for the guy and he may need to re-zero his rifle..

Exactly right!!! For some reason this attitude don't win many popularity contests tho…. if you're not sure of drop dead in the tracks shot… You shouldn't pull the trigger…. Tickles me when folks start up with the "he was dead, just didn't know it for 200 yards"...

 

[deerstalker.308]

Exactly right!!! For some reason this attitude don't win many popularity contests tho…. if you're not sure of drop dead in the tracks shot… You shouldn't pull the trigger…. Tickles me when folks start up with the "he was dead, just didn't know it for 200 yards"...

chaps, the guy in question is an FC wildlife ranger if I’m not mistaken, and they now have to have a trained deer dog, ironically as they probably shoot more deer than most and wound/lose fewer than most too, especially proportionally. The chap needs a dog for his job, not because he needs to necessarily find lots of wounded deer.
I do agree with the sentiment in a wider context, but not in this case.

 

[.25-06]

exactly

chaps, the guy in question is an FC wildlife ranger if I’m not mistaken, and they now have to have a trained deer dog, ironically as they probably shoot more deer than most and wound/lose fewer than most too, especially proportionally. The chap needs a dog for his job, not because he needs to necessarily find lots of wounded deer.
I do agree with the sentiment in a wider context, but not in this case.

Plus it will be a requirement of best practice and both out of season & night licence.
This is how they do it

 

[rem284]

OMG! you can tell how little some people have done in the way of number of deer killed by what they say. Last year I shot a few hundred deer, one deer I had to rely on the dog to catch and kill after a shot went wrong(nowt wrong with the zero, I just had not noticed a bonsai shrub in front of the beast in the poor light) . I am pleased I had the trained dog for that purpose and that moment alone. However it was also a benefit to have the dogs stalking along aside me indicating deer that I had not seen until the dogs pointed them out. Also the times that they helped me find the dead deer quickly enabling me to get on and kill some more.

 

[daven]

OMG! you can tell how little some people have done in the way of number of deer killed by what they say. Last year I shot a few hundred deer, one deer I had to rely on the dog to catch and kill after a shot went wrong(nowt wrong with the zero, I just had not noticed a bonsai shrub in front of the beast in the poor light) . I am pleased I had the trained dog for that purpose and that moment alone. However it was also a benefit to have the dogs stalking along aside me indicating deer that I had not seen until the dogs pointed them out. Also the times that they helped me find the dead deer quickly enabling me to get on and kill some more.

Why so many? Is that your job? Wildlife manager? Who tells you how many and what you have to kill?
Not a challenge, just curious…. In our revier, it's a three year plan that needs to be met. Don't know the exact number… But in an area that I almost leased, on 50 hectare, the yearly plan was 6 buck, 4 doe, and 4 young…. Roe deer…
I guess with the numbers you are talking, % is on your side. I still stick to what I said, but understand a slip now and then...

 

[Ranger22]

chaps, the guy in question is an FC wildlife ranger if I’m not mistaken, and they now have to have a trained deer dog, ironically as they probably shoot more deer than most and wound/lose fewer than most too, especially proportionally. The chap needs a dog for his job, not because he needs to necessarily find lots of wounded deer.
I do agree with the sentiment in a wider context, but not in this case.

Correct, we must have a dog for deer. I shot several hundred deer last year. Can’t recall my dog having to track and dispatch any but over his life time he would of tracked and dispatched less than half a dozen.He would of found several that I couldn’t locate.

 

[deerstalker.308]

Correct, we must have a dog for deer. I shot several hundred deer last year. Can’t recall my dog having to track and dispatch any but over his life time he would of tracked and dispatched less than half a dozen.He would of found several that I couldn’t locate.

Just as I suspected. Hope you get sorted soon, never nice loosing a dog.

 

[rem284]

Why so many? Is that your job? Wildlife manager? Who tells you how many and what you have to kill?
Not a challenge, just curious…. In our revier, it's a three year plan that needs to be met. Don't know the exact number… But in an area that I almost leased, on 50 hectare, the yearly plan was 6 buck, 4 doe, and 4 young…. Roe deer…
I guess with the numbers you are talking, % is on your side. I still stick to what I said, but understand a slip now and then...

Job yes. Several thousand hectares of land. Reason to cull, limit damage levels to less than 10% on a forest crop.

 

[Alan Maughan]

Look at all these midges in that film, you couldn't pay me enough money to work in that environment - big respect to anyone who does!

 

[daven]

alone? or can you take others out? I guess if you have to do it every day, it's no longer a hunting trip to look forward to…
how long have you been doing it? Interesting…..

 

[rem284]

Alone apart for a couple of weeks of paying guests. Done it for one or two years. Dealing with midgets, early mornings and late nights throughout the summer and red tape is a real pain. Winter is fantastic

 

[Minto]

alone? or can you take others out? I guess if you have to do it every day, it's no longer a hunting trip to look forward to…
how long have you been doing it? Interesting…..

Why wouldn’t they look forward to it? They do it because they like, certainly not for the money!