Loaded them for years both in .308 and 30-06 but a "better" man than me said 150gr. for 308 and 165gr for 30-06. Gets a bit too technical for me but they have all worked well over the years on red, fallow, sika, roe and muntjac( a bit ouch on this one)Has anyone used these on Roe? I have been given a box of 100 and wondered what the carcasss damage was like. I have been using 150 grain SST's for several years and I really like them. Any input on how they fly, etc would be appreciated.