Hornady to suspend production os 150 bullet types and 150 ammo types

Muir

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The 35 grain V-MAX for the Hornet is on that list. Hornet shooter's better stock up. They won't be honoring any orders from here on out.~Muir
 

Mr. Gain

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Looking at the list, I can see why many of the items listed are poor sellers, but I'd guess that the kind of people who use them -shooters with more specialist knowlege?- are likely to be disproportionately represented on forums, so this could be very bad PR, even if it makes sense from a manufacturing/sales point-of-view. After all, if every tyro who asks a grizzled "expert" is told "don't touch Hornady, they screwed us over in '13", a good number are likely not to. Whether a vocal minority of this sort has any influence in the face of the huge volume of sales orders Hornady must be trying to meet for this situation to have come about remains to be seen. I suspect not.
 

8x57

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Would be easier if they listed what bullets they are going to produce:mad:
Tusker


+1

Now that will provoke panic buying. I can see customers looking elsewhere and not returning to Hornady when the company returns to its senses.
 

bewsher500

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almost all the .277 bullets they make!
lucky I am a hoarder

about time we europeans started shooting more Norma and RWS bullets IMO
 

j0e_bl0ggs

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almost all the .277 bullets they make!
lucky I am a hoarder

about time we europeans started shooting more Norma and RWS bullets IMO


With the likes of RUAG etc you best not hold your breath. Had to wait 5 weeks for a Kahles scope, was not pleased at all.
Euro components are like rocking horse poo and importers do not give a damn about bringing them in...
 

Muir

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+1

Now that will provoke panic buying. I can see customers looking elsewhere and not returning to Hornady when the company returns to its senses.

No. Shooters are such whores. They will forgive and forget!
I agree. Much of the suspended products aren't very good sellers t begin with, or have a very limited customer base. I won't be missing many of these.

Panic buying? I don't know. There is a difference between 'panic buying' and seeing that for the next 5 months the bullet you want to shoot won't be made (probably taking a half a year to catch up after that) and buying enough to get you through it.~Muir
 

8x57

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Muir if that's a half year in the states it will be 18 months at least in this country. Most of the importers can hardly manage to supply what you want at the best of times and what is more they couldn't care less either. It would to wrong to describe most of the importers in this country as representatives as they certainly don't represent the companies who's goods they import.

I think you are wrong about forgive and forget also. I've never forgiven CCI or Remington for the crap service I received from them in the dim and distant past or their importers Edgar Brothers. My complaints go back at least 25 years and I still remember when considering a purchase.
 
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Muir

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Muir if that's a half year in the states it will be 18 months at least in this country. Most of the importers can hardly manage to supply what you want at the best of times and what is more they couldn't care less either. It would to wrong to describe most of the importers in this country as representatives as they certainly don't represent the companies who's goods they import.

I think you are wrong about forgive and forget also. I've never forgiven CCI or Remington for the crap service I received from them in the dim and distant past or their importers Edgar Brothers. My complaints go back at least 25 years and I still remember when considering a purchase.

True about the time line. And some dealers in the UK seem to have their heads tucked under their wings. When I posted about impending shortages of components several members responded that their dealers didn't see any problems on the horizon.

With regard to shooters: Perhaps not men like you and I, but look at all the 17HMR shooters who accept 11-13% defective rounds? I'd sell the thing and buy a sling shot before I'd put up with that. I won't buy a new Ruger rifle. They screwed me 20 years ago and I have never forgotten it. Likewise Aldo Uberti arms from Italy. Their "lifetime warranty" isn't worth the paper it's written on. Redfield scopes, same same. I never forget. Some people have shorter memories.~Muir
 

8x57

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"And some dealers in the UK seem to have their heads tucked under their wings."

That's a polite way of putting it, I wouldn't have said wings myself.
 

Muir

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"And some dealers in the UK seem to have their heads tucked under their wings."

That's a polite way of putting it, I wouldn't have said wings myself.

Well. I try to be polite.

I thought of this today at work. If they suspend production for 5 months, it will probably take 9 mos to a year to get stock back up here. I mean, lets face it; they are making what is in demand. Do you think they will abruptly stop that Jan 1, 2014?? I doubt it. They will ease into retooling for some of the suspended line. I can see some never coming back, frankly.

I don't want to be a storm crow, again, but you guys could be in for a longer Hornady drought than 18 months. I would count on a year of thin pickings depending on the bullet. Buy what you are allowed, and then use conservatively. The other edge of this sword is that the bullets they didn't suspend will probably go into a state of higher demand. Guys might switch from say, the 35 grain VMax to the 40 which will infringe on supplies that the regular 40 grain shooters have been tapping into.

I bought 500 of the 35 grain VM .224's and my buddy bought the other 500 they had. I also bought the 162 grn A-Max 7mm MATCH they had as old stock. I don't shoot them from my 7x57 but they are on the suspended list, I believe, and the price was very right. I also bought 8x100 of the 204 cal 32 grain VM for some shooters coming next week. I left 15 boxes of 40 grain on the shelf, and 12 boxes of the 45 grain SP. The SP's are on the discontinued list. I suspect that the users of those will gravitate to the 40 grain VM.~Muir
 

Mr. Gain

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"And some dealers in the UK seem to have their heads tucked under their wings."

That's a polite way of putting it, I wouldn't have said wings myself.

Coffee on keyboard. Smile on face. Thankyou both. A good start to the day!
 

Mr. Gain

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You guys could be in for a longer Hornady drought than 18 months. I would count on a year of thin pickings depending on the bullet. Buy what you are allowed, and then use conservatively. The other edge of this sword is that the bullets they didn't suspend will probably go into a state of higher demand. Guys might switch from say, the 35 grain VMax to the 40 which will infringe on supplies that the regular 40 grain shooters have been tapping into.

Wise words. Again, much appreciated.
 
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