humane dispatch

jeffthestalker

New Member
Hi All, my name is jeff and i have been doing humane dispatch for surrey police for 5 years, using a .38 revolver and 308 rifle and then suddenly all the calls stopped coming in, and nobody would tell me why in the local force, so i contacted the chief inspector and got a nice letter and e mail telling me my services are no longer required, and thanking me for my work in the past. as this job is now being done by ARMED RESPONSE TEAMS, O My god,what do they do with the carceses, what ammo are they using,and how were the trained..................Has anyone else out there had this situation take place thanks jeff
 

FGYT

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I would think they would have been fully risk assessed and trained they get a dam sight more training especially in discharging a fire arm in Populated environments than your average stalker ever will

all the Pistols and long arms they usually carry are kept unfired so are forensically clean if they ever get fired for real at which point they are bagged and tagged as evidence and never used again

they train on a different set of guns an the issued ones are bore sighted by the armorer .

The Officers do not have personnel guns any way. The guns get signed in and out and used by all the shifts

I would guess more than likely will be issued and carry a specific Fire arm for the job not to be used for the other main job
 

bewsher500

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ARU were used in several RTAs for humane dispatch in Northumberland when my father was practicing as a vet.

one in particular a roe buck had been hit and wounded but got onto a golf course in Gosforth but no-one could get within 50 yds of it.

ARU chap took instructions from my father on exactly where to shoot it and nailed it with some kind of short barrelled job with a fold out stock.
Seem to recall him being very interested why my father was bleeding it and "disposing" of it himself..... :lol:
 

Woodsmoke

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It'll be 'interesting' to see how you get on at renewal for your .38 revolver . . .

No doubt it'll end up listed in the statistics as another 'weapon' taken out of circulation? :confused:
 

8x57

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Hi All, my name is jeff and i have been doing humane dispatch for surrey police for 5 years, using a .38 revolver and 308 rifle and then suddenly all the calls stopped coming in, and nobody would tell me why in the local force, so i contacted the chief inspector and got a nice letter and e mail telling me my services are no longer required, and thanking me for my work in the past. as this job is now being done by ARMED RESPONSE TEAMS, O My god,what do they do with the carcases, Probably the same as many others under the various schemes operating throughout the country, leave them for the local highway authority to dispose of. That is unless they are taken by the local hunt. What ammo are they using, Possibly the same soft pointed ammunition as they normally use or else suitable shotgun ammunition for the task.and how were the trained....They will have received suitable training in HD...............Has anyone else out there had this situation take place thanks jeff
So it's no big issue as they've probably addressed all the issues and frankly they're welcome to the task.
 
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Scarlet

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Don't they normally use a crow bar for humane dispatch. Or just drive into or over stuff to end suffering with the car they`ve arrived in..
 

Akeld

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I would think they would have been fully risk assessed and trained they get a dam sight more training especially in discharging a fire arm in Populated environments than your average stalker ever will

all the Pistols and long arms they usually carry are kept unfired so are forensically clean if they ever get fired for real at which point they are bagged and tagged as evidence and never used again

they train on a different set of guns an the issued ones are bore sighted by the armorer .

The Officers do not have personnel guns any way. The guns get signed in and out and used by all the shifts

I would guess more than likely will be issued and carry a specific Fire arm for the job not to be used for the other main job
Can I ask where you get your information from please? I wouldn't like to rely on a firearm in a critical situation that had been bore sighted by myself, never mind a third party
 

FGYT

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Can I ask where you get your information from please? I wouldn't like to rely on a firearm in a critical situation that had been bore sighted by myself, never mind a third party
A very good friend who did 11yrs ARV

Remember ARV are close range and containment open sights etc . And are traffic cops till called

Long range telescopic marksmen are different unit
 
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Akeld

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A very good friend who did 11yrs ARV

Remember ARV are close range and containment open sights etc . And are traffic cops till called

Long range telescopic marksmen are different unit

Doesn't fill with much confidence, thanks for the reply
 

Taff

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Why do some stalkers think they are the only ones with knowledge of humane dispatch, the times I have seen the police dispatch a animal they have been very proficient , as to snide remarks about using a crowbar or running them over, shows how little knowledge some people have,
akeld bore sighting open sites ?,
 

WTF

Active Member
The use of skilled humane animal dispatch personal (HADs) is hugely inconsistent across the South (dont know about the North). Devon and Cornwall refuse to engage in discussion with anyone on the topic. Gloucester recognised that properly trained HADs are the best of both worlds as do others Thames Valley, Somerset and Avon Dorset Hants, Sussex.
Despite proper recognised training being in place D&C just seem to consider there is no place for HADs.
 

bryn

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HD is not some dark art that only certified stalkers can engage in. Its easily taught especially to individuals who tools of trade happen to be firearms.
Bryn
 

2130martin

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The use of skilled humane animal dispatch personal (HADs) is hugely inconsistent across the South (dont know about the North). Devon and Cornwall refuse to engage in discussion with anyone on the topic. Gloucester recognised that properly trained HADs are the best of both worlds as do others Thames Valley, Somerset and Avon Dorset Hants, Sussex.
Despite proper recognised training being in place D&C just seem to consider there is no place for HADs.
I heard that D&C are getting trained up to do the job in house...I think that s the best solution for all,no need for any additional pistols etc in the community etc etc
 
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2130martin

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How does someone become an expert at HD when there are so few of them??
What depicts an expert anyway?
 
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Monkey Spanker

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How does someone become an expert at HD when there are so few of them??
What depicts an expert anyway?
Regional difference for sure! I've been doing them for over 10 years and have had as many as 3 in a day!
I also do them for the RSPCA who pay me. Suffolk Police don't pay, but Norfolk do and they are now combined! How does that work?:confused:
MS
 

8x57

Distinguished Member
How does someone become an expert at HD when there are so few of them??
What depicts an expert anyway?
Do you mean so few incidents that require humane dispatch?
It's surprising how many incidents there are throughout the country that require HD, many of them seem to be clustered around fairly localised certain geographical areas.
 

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