maybe it's just me though i doubt it, why would you need/want other than survival to shoot large game at 800 + yds ? Wtf for ? 308 or any cal for that matter, have we truly lost our ability/want to hunt and get as close as you can ? For me anyway that is the ultimate challenge, read the wind stalk, stealth get to the closest point possible hell if your that good stick the muzzle in his ear just my tuppence worth.