Roedeer 1962
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Just putting it out there for opinions for reloaders , will the .243 be legal in a lead free bullet if this becomes law , just preparing as a legal requirement for Deer
Some 100gr options available now, so yes legal
No I’ve not looked for one to be honestHave you found a 100gr option that works?
Peregrine VRG3 100gr will apparently stabalise in a standard 1 in 10 twist barrel.Have you found a 100gr option that works?
Just putting it out there for opinions for reloaders , will the .243 be legal in a lead free bullet if this becomes law , just preparing as a legal requirement for Deer
Don't mess about, get a bigger calibre.
Word is that in Scotland the law is going to be changed to allow bullets lighter than 100g for red deer so that non lead ammo can be used in 243.
If they don't do that, then there will be a lot of 243s for sale cheap, or even a situation where the government will be forced to give compensation
Cheers
Bruce
Sounds like “ animal welfare and best practice “ have gone by the wayside in favour of the new agenda .... interestingWord is that in Scotland the law is going to be changed to allow bullets lighter than 100g for red deer so that non lead ammo can be used in 243.
If they don't do that, then there will be a lot of 243s for sale cheap, or even a situation where the government might be forced to give compensation
Cheers
Bruce
I never get the constant questions about bullet weight/speed/law with regard to the. 243. Get a .308 and all your questions are answered whatever you shoot at. The End.I would not be surprised if those pushing for 'lead' ammunition to be banned are those who stand to profit from it.
BASC made a lot of noise about shotgun cartridges, why are people keen to turn their attention towards rifle ammunition?
Please explain why this is necessary.
Pigs will fly before that happens.
bit heavy for foxing though if you only have 243 for both fox and deerI never get the constant questions about bullet weight/speed/law with regard to the. 243. Get a .308 and all your questions are answered whatever you shoot at. The End.
What's better for welfare, an 80grain non lead bullet designed to penetrate and kill deer sized animals or a 100 grain varmint bullet made from lead and copper? At the moment one is legal but less humane (assuming chest shots) while the other would be more effective but against the law.Sounds like “ animal welfare and best practice “ have gone by the wayside in favour of the new agenda .... interesting
I never get the constant questions about bullet weight/speed/law with regard to the. 243. Get a .308 and all your questions are answered whatever you shoot at. The End.
I never get the constant questions about bullet weight/speed/law with regard to the. 243. Get a .308 and all your questions are answered whatever you shoot at. The End.
Doesn’t matter ! The LAW is 100 gr up and has been for ages , any moving of goalposts for the lead free fad makes a joke of this lawWhat's better for welfare, an 80grain non lead bullet designed to penetrate and kill deer sized animals or a 100 grain varmint bullet made from lead and copper? At the moment one is legal but less humane (assuming chest shots) while the other would be more effective but against the law.
I don't own a 243 or shoot in Scotland so it's purely hypothetical for me.
All I'm saying is 100g of a "legal" but unsuitable bullet is surely less humane than 80grains of something suitable? When I did have a 243 I used the Federal 80grain powershok instead of the 100grain. They were more accurate and produced more energy.Doesn’t matter ! The LAW is 100 gr up and has been for ages , any moving of goalposts for the lead free fad makes a joke of this law
Doesn’t matter ! The LAW is 100 gr up and has been for ages , any moving of goalposts for the lead free fad makes a joke of this law
Not really because the monometal bullets behave very differently to the lead core bullets that shed mass by fragmentation whilst penetrating through tissues. I would be willing to bet that an 80 grain mono-metal loaded to comparable muzzle energy will outpenetrate a 100g soft point in comparable mediaDoesn’t matter ! The LAW is 100 gr up and has been for ages , any moving of goalposts for the lead free fad makes a joke of this law
Indeed the law makes no sense , but is put into force in the guise of “ animal welfare and best practice “ , my point being the law would seem not to matter at all if it’s being changed for this fad ....All I'm saying is 100g of a "legal" but unsuitable bullet is surely less humane than 80grains of something suitable? When I did have a 243 I used the Federal 80grain powershok instead of the 100grain. They were more accurate and produced more energy.
The law is the law but doesn't mean it makes sense and laws get changed all the time to reflect advances and changes in technology. Otherwise why can you shoot a roe in Scotland with a 50 grain 22 bullet but not in England? Are Scottish Roe much tougher? What about shooting a Norfolk red stag with an 80 grain which is legal on a deer much bigger and heavier than a Highland red stag weigh 30% less but having to use 100 grain bullet?