is the 338 win mag too punchy for the UK?
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John Gryphon
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From Mick this morn.
Projectile recovered from young sambar shot at approx . 20 m , hit front of chest recovered lodged in rear leg , no fragmentation at full velocity .
Projectile recovered from young sambar shot at approx . 20 m , hit front of chest recovered lodged in rear leg , no fragmentation at full velocity .
John Gryphon
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From Grant this evening,338WM Woodleigh Hydro 185gr ,as he said "hole punch" i`m actually on the ph to him as i type and he has just heard a shot from LC his son....he`s using my old 300wm Nosler rifle.
8x57
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Once again the same old problem of people especially some FEO's who may have only limited knowledge, confusing calibre with the actual cartridge or chambering.
You can only shoot and kill something dead and it doesn’t matter how big it is you can’t get deader than dead, our authorities seem fixated on larger calibres and not on the actual chambering.Once again the same old problem of people especially some FEO's who may have only limited knowledge, confusing calibre with the actual cartridge or chambering.
John Gryphon
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Yes of course but to make a buffalo dead ones triple two may be lacking.
All down to where you put it.
John Gryphon
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Yes understand ,you may knock an eye out ...before it gores and tosses you.All down to where you put it.
Yes but the chance of a charging buffalo goring and tossing you in the uk are probably slimmer than getting the .338 win mag on your certificate for deer and AOLQ.
John Gryphon
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ok swap buffalo for Jersey bull
John Gryphon - Q "ok swap buffalo for Jersey Murray Grey bull". UQ One came around a corner on the tree line. Absolutely out of his tree. Fast trotting around and smashing everything in his path...face, chest and throat covered in white sort of frothy saliva as he drooled. Dangerous! Two of us and all we could do was stand very still in front of a tree and hope he didn't find us. All we had were 12 G bunny guns and No 4 shot. Farmers said bush bred wild bull.
John Gryphon
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They stop with a bunny load at 3' an inch above the eye. Ya just gotta stand fast.
John Gryphon
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Good luck to those ringers up north.I am not a fan of dealing with bulls while on a quad. I had an Angus steer hook under my front bar one day and flipped the ****ing quad over my head as I bailed out. It was on a hill and the ****ing bike chased me down the hill rolling over and over until one ti-tree an inch and a bit in diameter stopped it from crushing me. Even a 4wd kubota although better than a quad isn't much protection at all. Big bovines toss them too. Those bulls have had a fair bit of harrying as evidenced by their heaving guts.
Call me a sheila but I want a landcruiser with a catch arm on it for those ****s. lol.
Hmmm...a 2000+ Lb bull charging me at say 40 KMH is killed on the move by a front on head shot at only a few yards but will still be coming at me. Momentum means it will hit me like a tank crushing me then flatten me as it collapses on top of me. Do I survive this...I doubt I'd still be alive but if I was then the weight of the bull lying on me would suffocate me. I can just see the tomorrows newspaper leading headline...Man Kills Bull And Dead Bull Kills Man.
John Gryphon
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lots of blokes sidestep all the time in cattle yards especially up north with the bos indicus breeds
John Gryphon
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only last week a Jersey cow,yes cow,horned bitch too which makes them even more dangerous got huffy with a couple of of us in the yards. Polled is bad enough but when they have curved hooks and you could be getting pushed around or up against the rails isn't fun. A 3' length of 1.5 inch poly pipe is a necessity. I gave a couple the red dog treatment in the race when they baulked....baulk no more.You took the words right off my keyboard John.
Sidestep Cav, sidestep.
There is a fair bit of bluff in bulls mostly, but a snakey cow usually means it. A genuine viciousness. Underestimate them at your peril. I reckon more blokes have been seriously tickled up by some old river mole than a snot blowing mickey. Just doesn't tell so good around a stock camp fire. And anything with a set of handlebars deserves respect.
John Gryphon
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YES too right! Like an Aboriginal woomera throws a spear further...horns toss you higher ha ha.
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