Just curious....

MarinePMI

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With all the talk about NHS and the differences between medical systems in the US and the UK, I was curious....


How many here keep a stash of various antibiotics in their home? Or do most just assume that the local NHS facility will provide them?
 
No one should. Totally inappropriate use

Unless you are a farmer and it's supplied by a vet!

Amen!

Honestly, if we're going for curiosity, I don't see why Americans are so against the nationalised health service? From a distance, it effectively feels like you're paying for that already, just instead of their dollars going to the government, they're fattening up the purse of a private company?

(To be fair, giving your money to the gov isn't something to necessarily trusted either... But the argument that "oh I don't want to be paying for someone else's healthcare" that I see a lot on facepuke just doesn't make sense to me! If you/work are paying for health insurance, and you don't claim, you are still paying for someone else's healthcare right? - or fattening the company's pockets...)
 
With all the talk about NHS and the differences between medical systems in the US and the UK, I was curious....


How many here keep a stash of various antibiotics in their home? Or do most just assume that the local NHS facility will provide them?
Most don't store them expecting to be supplied when the need arises...
I wish my NI tax was available for a private healthcare scheme but I have to look after the drunks, the druggies, the work shy, the single parent mothers and their children and last but not least the boat people!
 
Having been to university, I would say, the people who could afford private health insurance can fall under those categories as well 😅

But yes, I appreciate your point - and somewhat agree. Whilst I wouldn't personally turn away from the NHS, I would like to see that option there for some people as well. But also limits/caps on the amount of profit such companies could take... (I wouldn't want to see what happens with private carehomes happen with private healthcare as well...)
 
I would think most people here in UK only have antibiotics when they need them....
1. Because we can't just buy them we need a prescription from doctors in order to get them, you can't just buy them off the shelf
2. Like anything else I guess they have a shelf life and would be ineffective if using old stashed stock
3. Overuse ..... we now seeing strains of disease our should I say bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics due to over use
In scenarios where they wouldn't really help

Paul
 
3. Overuse ..... we now seeing strains of disease our should I say bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics due to over use
In scenarios where they wouldn't really help

Paul

Further this one as well, as it is, there are plenty of folk who decide not to finish their course of prescribed antibiotics, because they're feeling right as rain... Which works towards antibiotic resistance in bacteria as well... I hate to imagine what it'd be like if everyone just had a stash of penicllin etc under the bed for "just in case".
 
With all the talk about NHS and the differences between medical systems in the US and the UK, I was curious....


How many here keep a stash of various antibiotics in their home? Or do most just assume that the local NHS facility will provide them?

No and never stashed them when I lived in a paid for system. Would be weird and can’t even remember the last time I had a genuine need for antibiotics.
 
Would be interesting (and possibly nice) to be able to "opted out" of the NHS in lieu of a private scheme like BUPA for example... But equally, until you claim, you're still forking out for other people's ill health...
Slight snag in this scenario, at the moment anyway, the private health care providers do not provide 999/emergency services and do not provide for all illnesses/conditions, especially the really expensive to treat ones.
 
Most don't store them expecting to be supplied when the need arises...
I wish my NI tax was available for a private healthcare scheme but I have to look after the drunks, the druggies, the work shy, the single parent mothers and their children and last but not least the boat people!
Looking at private health care schemes and the cost of them you'd struggle to get anything for what NHS NI contributions are. Not to mention that private health care in the UK doesn't really cover any emergency treatment so you'd still need to co tribute for that if you wanted access to it.
 
With all the talk about NHS and the differences between medical systems in the US and the UK, I was curious....


How many here keep a stash of various antibiotics in their home? Or do most just assume that the local NHS facility will provide them?
Do you keep a stash of antibiotics? If so what is the reason for it?
 
Would be interesting (and possibly nice) to be able to "opted out" of the NHS in lieu of a private scheme like BUPA for example... But equally, until you claim, you're still forking out for other people's ill health...
Yes you are, but a least you’re not subsidising the ner do wells!
Kb.
 
Yes you are, but a least you’re not subsidising the ner do wells!
Kb.
From what I remember reading a while ago, most money is spent in the last 2 weeks of life for most patients. Yes drunks and druggies make good scapegoats and news stories but it's people who are overweight with numerous heart and associated health problems that are clogging up the NHS.

Being overweight is the biggest predictor of a myriad of health problems, and you don't have to be clinically obese eating junk food every day, just a few KG is enough to hugely increase your risk and subsequent strain on health services.
 
Amen!

Honestly, if we're going for curiosity, I don't see why Americans are so against the nationalised health service? From a distance, it effectively feels like you're paying for that already, just instead of their dollars going to the government, they're fattening up the purse of a private company?

(To be fair, giving your money to the gov isn't something to necessarily trusted either... But the argument that "oh I don't want to be paying for someone else's healthcare" that I see a lot on facepuke just doesn't make sense to me! If you/work are paying for health insurance, and you don't claim, you are still paying for someone else's healthcare right? - or fattening the company's pockets...)
We're against it, because it's a ponzi scheme where one of two things (and sometimes both) happen. Quality goes down, or quantity goes down.

We prefer having control over our own health care, using our Health Insurance where needed. Read that carefully. Twice.
 
One can’t help but wonder what Aneurin Bevan would make of today’s National Health Service.

I very much doubt at the time it was founded that he expected the NHS would end up spending millions to fund people wanting to have babies at the same time as people wanting to get rid of babies, people wanting to change sex, people wanting gastric bands and Ozempic, people wanting their Brazilian Butt Lifts fixed, and - if MP’s vote in favour on Friday - people wanting to commit suicide.

Where the NHS has gone wrong is that people now expect it to fund everything, regardless of cost.
 
Looking at private health care schemes and the cost of them you'd struggle to get anything for what NHS NI contributions are. Not to mention that private health care in the UK doesn't really cover any emergency treatment so you'd still need to co tribute for that if you wanted access to it.
How do you think the healthcare schemes work in the rest of Europe? Doesn’t expecting better outcomes enter into it at some point?
 
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