Just had this link shared you all must see this.
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grumpyoldsod
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paul o'
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good man fancy sending a copy to the police, link in my post above seems thay found it funny to use a hornet for bunny's didt see them lamp any 
nor any in the truck !!
i hope thay get done for all that love there stalking , thay had a night cert hmmm 22 hornet me think not !!! not one round that was sent flying into the darkness had the sound of a .243 let alone a moded one ?? sounded like a hornet looked like a hornet must be a ?
nor any in the truck !! i hope thay get done for all that love there stalking , thay had a night cert hmmm 22 hornet me think not !!! not one round that was sent flying into the darkness had the sound of a .243 let alone a moded one ?? sounded like a hornet looked like a hornet must be a ?
Moray Outfitting
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Not pleasant viewing at all.
What is said and what they do do not necessarily match up. It would need much closer scrutiny on much better gear than I have - plus the proper authorities can match the rifles shown shown against what is on relevant persons FAC etc.
We've discussed it here before - video footage is wide open to misinterpretation; so I leave it to the authorities to investigate - I certainly agree it should be brought to their attention.
These people came across ( to put it mildly ) as total idiots. As portrayed, their actions do immense damage to the fieldsports/ shooting community. If the general public can be persuaded that this is typical behaviour in terms of how we conduct shooting activities and how we treat animals then its game over.
Regardless of exactly what did happen on the occasion of this filming, the events as they came across on that video are simply unacceptable on every level. I am quite certain those involved dont think of themselves as idiots - and yet that is the unequivocal picture they chose to paint of themselves. There's an serious lesson for us all there. Unless we each take individual responsibility for our actions and drop the egotism fieldsports will eventually be gone forever.
I'm not pushing DSC1 or any other kind of training here at all - but you can very easily envisage that these jokers see absolutely nothing wrong in what they have done. Its not a huge leap to put words into their mouth - 'I've shot for twenty years and my dad for 40, what can some boy in a shirt teach me about how to shoot'? How many of us have actually paused to consider just exactly what such words may mean?
What is said and what they do do not necessarily match up. It would need much closer scrutiny on much better gear than I have - plus the proper authorities can match the rifles shown shown against what is on relevant persons FAC etc.
We've discussed it here before - video footage is wide open to misinterpretation; so I leave it to the authorities to investigate - I certainly agree it should be brought to their attention.
These people came across ( to put it mildly ) as total idiots. As portrayed, their actions do immense damage to the fieldsports/ shooting community. If the general public can be persuaded that this is typical behaviour in terms of how we conduct shooting activities and how we treat animals then its game over.
Regardless of exactly what did happen on the occasion of this filming, the events as they came across on that video are simply unacceptable on every level. I am quite certain those involved dont think of themselves as idiots - and yet that is the unequivocal picture they chose to paint of themselves. There's an serious lesson for us all there. Unless we each take individual responsibility for our actions and drop the egotism fieldsports will eventually be gone forever.
I'm not pushing DSC1 or any other kind of training here at all - but you can very easily envisage that these jokers see absolutely nothing wrong in what they have done. Its not a huge leap to put words into their mouth - 'I've shot for twenty years and my dad for 40, what can some boy in a shirt teach me about how to shoot'? How many of us have actually paused to consider just exactly what such words may mean?
deerwarden
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If you look at further videos links you will see them shooting pheasants at night with catapults, and other questionable things going on, they're travellers so trying to nail them will be difficult to say the least, have sent link as well. deerwarden.
If you watch the other videos on ThePoachers2010 channel then you can be pretty sure that they are pikeys and don't give a rats arse about any laws at all and the police will not want to get involved either.
There is an Irish number plate laying in the back of a pickup RIL89?? in one of the pheasant poaching vids.
Would love to see them get their dues.
There is an Irish number plate laying in the back of a pickup RIL89?? in one of the pheasant poaching vids.
Would love to see them get their dues.
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bewsher500
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think you are all being a little hopeful that the power of the law will come to bear on any of them with any real force.
I can see lots of lip service and standard follow up but no real convictions.
who took the shots? where is it filmed? etc etc
CPS only need to screw up one aspect and they walk
I can see lots of lip service and standard follow up but no real convictions.
who took the shots? where is it filmed? etc etc
CPS only need to screw up one aspect and they walk
6pointer
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Looks like they did not have the know how regards shooting at night. It scotland 100,s of night licence get issued i would hope there is a way of checking that the licence holder can work to night shooting best practice. MO what you say is very true i feel it will be hard to prove. But night licences will be in short supply down south and if they have one it will be named to ground in norfolk. I am sure a quick call to Natural England would let you know what's what in that area.
On their channel here there is a random shot of a DVD called Red, The coursing Saluki.
http://www.youtube.com/user/thepoacher2010
Click on the link and you arrive here :-
http://www.sporting-videos.com/sporting-videos/product-info.php?pid375.html
It has one shining review, from someone called The Poacher, complete with advert for the dogs stud fee with a contact name and number. I wonder if he's anything to do with this lot?
http://www.youtube.com/user/thepoacher2010
Click on the link and you arrive here :-
http://www.sporting-videos.com/sporting-videos/product-info.php?pid375.html
It has one shining review, from someone called The Poacher, complete with advert for the dogs stud fee with a contact name and number. I wonder if he's anything to do with this lot?
Paul at Fechan
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can't get a night license for deer just for crop protection in England, got to be related to public safety. There's nothing legit in that video
Oh jesus have you seen the other poaching videos these guys have put up, it's unreal, pheasants with catapults on the lamp out of trees and worse, this needs sorted
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You have to hope that there'll be a bit of natural selection in action there - it's only a matter of time before they shoot themselves.
I'm sad to say I've twice been on night culls (in South Africa) which were almost identical to this, with the added terror factor that the Afrikaans farmers I was with had been on the brandy-and-cokes since 3 in the afternoon. They were shooting springbok with 22 Hornets. I'm absolutely astonished that this happens in the UK. Can't help but feel for the farmer who had this on his land.
I'm sad to say I've twice been on night culls (in South Africa) which were almost identical to this, with the added terror factor that the Afrikaans farmers I was with had been on the brandy-and-cokes since 3 in the afternoon. They were shooting springbok with 22 Hornets. I'm absolutely astonished that this happens in the UK. Can't help but feel for the farmer who had this on his land.
Erik Hamburger
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Hold fire for a moment guys, what about these people their HUMAN RIGHTS ? 
Bavarianbrit
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Watched the whole thing.
****s did not even field gralloch so there is food hygene best practise broken for a start. I bet this venison is sneaking into the local pubs/restaurants too.
It looked like they were using an FJ Toyota to me as the panel depressions on the rear quarters seem to match that vehicle which is even rarer in the UK (first couple of minutes into the video).
Utter unsporting scum IMHO.
I hear a lot about going poaching from the blowhards in some of the pubs here in the Dover area "sickens me".
Martin
****s did not even field gralloch so there is food hygene best practise broken for a start. I bet this venison is sneaking into the local pubs/restaurants too.
It looked like they were using an FJ Toyota to me as the panel depressions on the rear quarters seem to match that vehicle which is even rarer in the UK (first couple of minutes into the video).
Utter unsporting scum IMHO.
I hear a lot about going poaching from the blowhards in some of the pubs here in the Dover area "sickens me".
Martin
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