Vulpesvulpes
Well-Known Member
Anyone got the latest 2.4L Toyota Hilux. Real world MPG/power/rust/manual or auto? Any tips gratefully noted.
Latest Hilux 2.4 real world?
- Thread starter Vulpesvulpes
- Start date
@theroedeerguy
Well-Known Member
Automatic invincible real world mpg 26-31 depends on if I’ve left it running to defrost the windscreen, bear in mind that’s with BFG KO2s.
Rust wise no concern but I gave mine a once over with Buzzweld all in one chassis paint followed by hybrid wax WAR so far so good.
My pick up bed has the line X lining and is brilliant wouldn’t be without it now.
If you’ve been a member of BASC for over a year get in touch with Davie Robertson at SDM Falkirk and he will give you a cracking deal.
The Hilux is superb and I’ll only be replacing mine with another.
Rust wise no concern but I gave mine a once over with Buzzweld all in one chassis paint followed by hybrid wax WAR so far so good.
My pick up bed has the line X lining and is brilliant wouldn’t be without it now.
If you’ve been a member of BASC for over a year get in touch with Davie Robertson at SDM Falkirk and he will give you a cracking deal.
The Hilux is superb and I’ll only be replacing mine with another.
@theroedeerguy
Well-Known Member
Double post ?
Vulpesvulpes
Well-Known Member
Looking at a white 16 plate Invincible with 3,500m with no canopy for £20,500+VAT. Arnold Shark.
Vulpesvulpes
Well-Known Member
.....good to know!
Got the Icon version in 6 speed manual.
Average around 31 mpg, but drops if you use the power mode in preference to Eco mode. (selector switch on LHS of handbrake)
With power mode selected I would say it's faster than the 3l version I had previously.
Rust proofing under arches is poor, so I plan to have that done this summer.
Two improvements over the previous version are:
road noise is much reduced, primarily due to thicker glass being used for the windows
the reversing camera is integrated much better and functions very well
one thing to watch out for on the first ones that came out with manual gearboxes was the gear stick locking up when driving longer distances in 6th gear. It has since been fixed by changing the washer associated with the return spring in the selector mechanism.
another thing for the Invincible version and indeed any vehicle with zenon headlights is that if it's snowing heavily, because there's minimal heat from the zenon bulb (compared to tungsten) the snow builds up on your headlights and they become dimmer and dimmer. My mate had to stop 3 times to clear his headlights when heading back from Inverness last month.
as already stated, if you have been a BASC Member for more than a year then you qualify for a discount of list price new.
Odders
Well-Known Member
The problem with those two is some of the plusher models are over the 2040kg weight limit & thus limited to 50 on A roads & 60 on dual carriageways, as some owners have found to their cost.
I'm still toying between a Hilux & an Isuzu with the Huntsman pack (currently have an 08 Isuzu & an 06 Wildtrak from new before that).
Vulpesvulpes
Well-Known Member
Is the 2.8 not only available in petrol?
I have read of poor rust control on the "bumpers"...
I have read of poor rust control on the "bumpers"...
There is no petrol engine in the line-up anymore in the UK.
Specs vary greatly from country to country. We had the 4.0L V6 for a long time but that's gone now which is a real shame as it was outstanding, that motor. We only get the 2.8L diesel, which is excellent.
A lot of markets have the 4-cyl 2.7 petrol.
I looked up the lack of availability of the 2.8 in the UK and could only find forum waffle suggesting it was down to emissions. The idea that Toyota would bring out new engines that don't meet the latest emissions standards seems nuts.
By the way, talk of the Hilux 2.4L diesel being underpowered is bollox and typical of car buyers fixated on numbers rather than driving experience. I drove a 2016 2.4 Hilux around Sweden and Norway for a month fully loaded and towing a 750cc quad, and it was fine, much more torquey than my previous generation 3.0 KUN26R. I use a 2.8L version here regularly and whilst it is more powerful unit its not like its a deal breaker. Why people seem to want so much power in a pickup is beyond me, torque is far more important and neither the 2.4 or 2.8 Hilux is lacking in Nm.
Toyota has never, in any generation of Hilux, led the pack on power. They focus on reliability and long term durability in working conditions. That said, the current generation is attracting a fair share of criticism for reliability niggles, mostly focussed on the unecessary nice-to-haves like parking sensors. It hasn't to date been its most successful model for sure, since Ford decided to out muscle the Hilux. (Read the long term test results of the Ranger in industrial work settings... its not a good outcome.)
Specs vary greatly from country to country. We had the 4.0L V6 for a long time but that's gone now which is a real shame as it was outstanding, that motor. We only get the 2.8L diesel, which is excellent.
A lot of markets have the 4-cyl 2.7 petrol.
I looked up the lack of availability of the 2.8 in the UK and could only find forum waffle suggesting it was down to emissions. The idea that Toyota would bring out new engines that don't meet the latest emissions standards seems nuts.
By the way, talk of the Hilux 2.4L diesel being underpowered is bollox and typical of car buyers fixated on numbers rather than driving experience. I drove a 2016 2.4 Hilux around Sweden and Norway for a month fully loaded and towing a 750cc quad, and it was fine, much more torquey than my previous generation 3.0 KUN26R. I use a 2.8L version here regularly and whilst it is more powerful unit its not like its a deal breaker. Why people seem to want so much power in a pickup is beyond me, torque is far more important and neither the 2.4 or 2.8 Hilux is lacking in Nm.
Toyota has never, in any generation of Hilux, led the pack on power. They focus on reliability and long term durability in working conditions. That said, the current generation is attracting a fair share of criticism for reliability niggles, mostly focussed on the unecessary nice-to-haves like parking sensors. It hasn't to date been its most successful model for sure, since Ford decided to out muscle the Hilux. (Read the long term test results of the Ranger in industrial work settings... its not a good outcome.)
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
Just changed a punctured tyre on my 2.8 and yes they just keep going...slowly ha ha.
My pals got the Amorak. I was surprised to find that it had no "low box" facility.
One thing I like about the Isuzu is that it doesn't need addblue.
Co1
Well-Known Member
If your after the Huntsman, just get the normal Utah model and add the bits yourself. Works out cheaper unless you want the black wheels and decals. Even if you pay your dealer to fit the rest.
tackb
Well-Known Member
it's because they hate us !
I am currently running the last of the 200 series V8 diesels (4.5l) because Toyota have decided were not allowed it anymore , they still make it and send it to other markets but have decided we here in the uk are not allowed it !
I do not want another range rover , I am fed up of being dry humped on reliability and after sales service but Toyota have removed the only real competition , yes I'm cross!
I am amazed they didn’t release the Hilux 2.8 in the UK. There’s a lot of whinging about it and longtime customers moving to Ford etc. That said the 2018 reviews are saying Toyota is considering a big fanfare 2.8 release later this year. Its the same engine as in the new Land Cruiser, which we know as the LC Prado.
Sorry to hear Toyota UK dropped the 1VD-FTV V8 200s. Fantastic vehicles. But getting slightly long in the tooth, that motor is due an upgrade, it is the same generation tech as the previous Hilux 1KD-FTV.
tackb
Well-Known Member
agreed , the V8 is a little long in the tooth but surely Toyota could sort that it's not like they don't have the technology? one dealer tried to get me to buy a 2.8 landcruiser saying it was essentially the same as the V8 , lol
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
Of course,they both have an "8" in their designated number.
The Hilux 2.8 4cyl 177hp motor is pretty close to the output of the 4.5 8cyl single turbo Land Cruiser pickup, which is totally irrelevent and you guys don’t get that in the UK. The twin turbo Land Cruiser 4.5 8cyl output is in a totally different league, 268hp.
However... here’s the rub. The little 4cyl Land Cruiser weighs ~2300kg and the 200 series 8cyl weighs ~2700kg, with torque figures of 331lb-ft and 479lb-ft respectively. When you convert that to a rough torque to weight ratio ignoring the imperial vs metric units, you’re looking at a ratios of 0.14 and 0.17 respectively. Torque being the most important aspect of drivability of this type of vehicle, the new tech diesels are catching up with the previous generation. I reckon if you test drove one of the 2.8 “little” Land Cruisers, you might be surprised how well it goes.
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
as you know dodgy my 2.8 lux has a great motor but is a slow car.
my 2.4 turbo Mitsi runs to about 180 hp and is, compared to the lux a very quick car.
I do agree that those little modern turbo diesels go hard.
Remember the original lux motor that had about as much power as a Mixmaster!
my 2.4 turbo Mitsi runs to about 180 hp and is, compared to the lux a very quick car.
I do agree that those little modern turbo diesels go hard.
Remember the original lux motor that had about as much power as a Mixmaster!
Similar threads
