New Security Advice

timbrayford

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This advice is all very well but the criminal justice system needs to take responsibility as well. Are 5 or 8 year sentences for habitual armed criminals really appropriate? Why wait for citizens such as these to commit a murder before they receive a whole life sentence? The shooting community is doing its best, but to my mind HM Govt. needs to tackle the crooks as well!

atb Tim
 

dom8328

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Surely the fact that we all have to have cabinets and are asked in depth questions by the FEO about security means that we are not silly enough to endanger our sport or licences. Agreed the government need to get a grip of the criminals and any illegal posessions need harsh sentences.

Dom
 

timbrayford

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How should we dry our rifles?
Lock external doors, draw curtains and do not leave rifle unattended, I'm not sure if you can use the "gun bearers" exemption to get other members of your household to clean the rifle, it would need someone brave and rich enough to fight a test case to find out.

atb Tim
 

tFl

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Lock external doors, draw curtains and do not leave rifle unattended, I'm not sure if you can use the "gun bearers" exemption to get other members of your household to clean the rifle, it would need someone brave and rich enough to fight a test case to find out.

atb Tim
the bearers exemption is for "bearing" the gun for the holders 'sporting purposes' only. Cleaning it falls outside this in the home environment.
 

tFl

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The point of the guide is because some still insist on doing silly things that assists criminals to stealing their guns e.g. Leaving keys in prominant positions at home whilst having gone shopping for the day.
 

RickoShay

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Quite so tFL.

There is more to this than meets the eye. NCA have a specific task to detect, deny, disrupt etc illegal firearms trafficking in the UK.

It is more difficult (not impossible) to get hold of illegal firearms in the UK than in many countries inside the Shengen area (who do not have the border systems we have); subsequently there is an increased threat (more recently) from serious organised criminals and, you can work this out, potentially determined terrorists who are themselves less likely to want to use traditional black market providers; you don't want to be the guy who sold guns to terrorists (Belgium), nor the person having them break into your house to take yours.

If IS and AQ networks can hack CENCOM they can find firearms owners details easily enough over the internet; the first time they are successful would probably be the last, but then too late. So the message is rather timely.

If we do our bit, which surely most of us do, a little remind for the balance can only be a good thing; not to forget a pretty impressive piece of joint working PR between BASC and a Home Office agency.

On a happier note, January is almost over :D
 
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timbrayford

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the bearers exemption is for "bearing" the gun for the holders 'sporting purposes' only. Cleaning it falls outside this in the home environment.
Thanks for clarifying, presumably those wealthy enough to delegate gun cleaning to household staff must ensure that their employees are SGC holders.

atb Tim
 

lister

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keep firearm locked up unless you are using it
if drying is not using it is cleaning using it or fitting a scope how long can you have it out of a safe before and after "using it"
 

tFl

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keep firearm locked up unless you are using it
if drying is not using it is cleaning using it or fitting a scope how long can you have it out of a safe before and after "using it"
You as a certificate holder can do what you wish so long as at all times it is secure as per condition 4 (a) & (b) of your certificate.

the exemption mentioned in the earlier post only relates to NON- certificate holders when acting as a bearer in the sporting field.
 

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