New Thermal "Dealers".................Caveat Emptor !

[Lateral]

I've posted this in "General", because I think people need to be aware.............

The number of new "Thermal dealers" popping up almost daily, with the product range always nigh on identical to each other. I'm struggling to believe that the Manufacturers/ importers are just handing out dealerships to all, and sundry, they generally have strict criteria before you can become a dealer, so to me at least, they're suspicious, & should be treated with caution.

To qualify, I was curious to know who all these new dealers are. It only takes seconds to look up company, & website details, and I'm finding most of the info a bit of a concern.

When I looked into one website, there's no registered company, and the contact tel.no used for registering the domain, lead to someone in Arizona, with the tel.no listed as a know scammer.

Companies/domains have at been registered for about 12 months at best, with most under 6 months. In some cases, there is only a website registered, but no company exists at Companies House. And where there is a registered company, the directors have no other companies listed, so zero track record, never having filed accounts in their lives. One is "trading as", and the parent company doesn't appear to exist either.

I'm sure some of these new companies will be legitimate, but I'd suggest using due diligence, and if unsure make you pay by credit card, or buy from well known established companies.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Got some links to these new £thermal dealers" ?
So we know who to avoid

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Lateral]

Bruce,

I'm not suggesting anyone should be avoided, just be cautious who they trust with their money !

Well, apart from this one, to definitely avoid is Wildwood Optics a tel.no associated with them is listed as a scammer. Telephone Check

 

[mealiejimmy]

Definitely dodgy but he won't get many sales since several genuine UK sellers are selling it for less

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Klenchblaize]

I doubt the manufacturers give a toss who they sell to in bulk provided they get a meaningful order, accompanied by the commensurate dosh.

K

 

[Lateral]

Definitely dodgy but he won't get many sales since several genuine UK sellers are selling it for less

Cheers

Bruce

It was just an example, and the price could easily be dropped to entice people.

 

[Lateral]

I doubt the manufacturers give a toss who they sell to in bulk provided they get a meaningful order, accompanied by the commensurate dosh.

K

Certainly not all, you'll notice whilst some are listing Pulsar, none are actually selling it. Pulsar take dealerships very seriously.

 

[Lateral]

Definitely dodgy but he won't get many sales since several genuine UK sellers are selling it for less

Cheers

Bruce

Just came across this Gun Vault / Wildwood optics

The domain "Gunvault.co.uk" has also been registered by the same person in Arizona.

 

[C h r i s]

Arizona could just be their website developers address. The site seems to be linked to shops in Northern Ireland?

 

[Lateral]

Arizona could just be their website developers address. The site seems to be linked to shops in Northern Ireland?

Perhaps, it's the telephone number, US code, listed as a scammer, that is the Red Flag. Widewood Optics may be legit, but there are many options that are long standing, with excellent reputations, and at least you know they'll still be around for backup, & support.

 

[triggertrix]

Slow news day?

 

[Lateral]

Slow news day?

Strange comment. Would you rather people were made aware of possible scammers, or prefer for them to get ripped off, possibly for thousands of pounds ?

 

[Optics world]

wildwood is a dealer in ireland and is not a scammer in any way shape or form
many new dealers are giving the customers the service the more established ones are not
we constantly get complaints about a dealer on here who never replies to customers or helps with warranty issues
nothing wrong with new dealers everyone started from day one
good service is what we need from all dealers

 

[JimZed]

HI, just to clarify WildWood Optics is my company, its fully ligit, my phone number is 07831596161 for anyone That may be interested in Thermal scopes, NV or daytime optics. we are based in Armagh N Ireland and yes have listed on Gunvault and also Gundeal. (Yes my website is still in development, but you can check out my facebook page WildWood Optics | Armagh if you would like to check it out an dmaybe follwo it or give me a few likes. By the way, i do appreciate members who look out for others , but as in all things its always better to be sure on facts.

 

[Lateral]

HI, just to clarify WildWood Optics is my company, its fully ligit, my phone number is 07831596161 for anyone That may be interested in Thermal scopes, NV or daytime optics. we are based in Armagh N Ireland and yes have listed on Gunvault and also Gundeal. (Yes my website is still in development, but you can check out my facebook page WildWood Optics | Armagh if you would like to check it out an dmaybe follwo it or give me a few likes. By the way, i do appreciate members who look out for others , but as in all things its always better to be sure on facts.

Apologies if you are legitimate, but the online information certainly suggests the number used to register the domain, is associated with a scammer.

Good luck with your venture.

 

[C h r i s]

I think the phone number is only associated with the web host, who also host a bunch of other sites that are nothing to do with the company mentioned above. yes, some of these other sites have been reported as running some sort of scam however the only contact number is the "whois" data, so unless I’ve missed something its not relevant and in no way linked ot JimZed.

 

[triggertrix]

Apologies if you are legitimate, but the online information certainly suggests the number used to register the domain, is associated with a scammer.

Good luck with your venture.

Maybe stop the witch hunting

 

[Lateral]

nothing wrong with new dealers everyone started from day one

Totally agree, every company has a "day one", but at the same time, brand new companies, with brand new Directors, with no track record, should be treated with caution, because with so many new companies entering any market, all promoting the identical product range, they will all be under extreme pricing pressure, all competing for the same online business.

So early on, service remains to be seen, and I hope they all achieve a high level, not easy with such high value products, and maintaining stock levels from day one.

 

[Optics world]

some older dealers should spend less time crying on facebook, making up stories and spend more time offering their customers some support
we get contacted weekly to sort out issues from a dealer on here and as a new dealer we take pride in offering a good service to everyone

 

[Lateral]

Maybe stop the witch hunting

Another stupid comment, based on what ? If you don't like the content, why are you bothering to read, and reply

I'm only involved as someone interested in buying another thermal, and coming across so many brand new companies selling Thermtec, & Senopex, to me, it came across as suspicious !

I have only suggested caution, only mentioned one name, for which was mistaken, and I have apologized for, and people can choose whatever they think appropriate, if buying a thermal !