New UK Ammunition Manufacturer

Evening all,

Not happy with the performance of allot of lead free ammo I embarked on a long journey seeking accuracy and reliable terminal ballistics.

The only bullets I found to be reliable (Nielsen & yew tree) were not available in a factory offering and many friends and professionals mandated to use factory lead free complaining of grouping issues (especially when they start shooting 5+ shot groups) I started to develop a 'factory' round that would group well in 99% of rifles.

With the help of many people and under the wing of Specialist Rifle Services (Steve Bowers) I began the unfamiliar task of developing a load in multiple rifles simultaneously looking for universal accuracy nodes. A few £K later and some blood sweat and tears and the ammo is almost ready to hit the shops.

We've had some fantastic field testers using the ammo and 100's of deer later (almost 1000 now), I'd like to thank them all for their time, financial investment and commitment.

Now for some Beta tests. We'll be looking for some SD members to test our ammo at a reduced cost, I'll post the details at some point tomorrow, takers will be need to take 100 rounds (after checking the grouping in their rifle) in either:
.243 win
6.5x55
.270win
308 win

I look forward to meeting up with as many members as possible to test some of our ammo in as many rifles as possible recording the velocities and groups achieved.

I'm excited to offer UK manufactured cartridges shooting UK manufactured bullets (as well as some Danish ones)

Although it is possible to create custom loads for individual rifles to further hone the group size we've found that with our premium ammo we are yet to have a rifle group over moa and most much less. Our powder is weighed to+/-0.02gr we don't believe there is any other factory offering going to the lengths we are to ensure the consistency that we do. We're yet to find a rifle with a standard twist rate that doesn't like our ammo but with the help of SD members, if there is one, we'd like to find it.
 

monarman

Well-Known Member
Be very interested!.... I have to shoot 100 plus deer a year with lead free ammo and as of yet I'm mot 100%happy with the offerings that are currently available... mainly accuracy but also expansion(lack of).... ive tried haornady gmx, fox, federal, sako and barnes vor-tx ..... upto know the barnes has proven most accurate...
I can homeload..bit the estate buys my ammunition so it's easier to do that.....

Drop me a pm and I can give you more info about my situation (where I work etc.) And likewise I'm interested to know more about your ammo.... BTW I'm. 243 and 6.5 creed but will also be interested in .308 ....

Steve
 

BigPat

Well-Known Member
Great to see a new British venture kicking off 👍

I have never found problems with non-lead in my tikka T3 6.5x55se but both my Sako75 in .308 and my S20 in .308 have struggled with factory lead-free so I will watch this with great interest.
 

Jelen

Well-Known Member
That's very encouraging.
Evening all,

Not happy with the performance of allot of lead free ammo I embarked on a long journey seeking accuracy and reliable terminal ballistics.

The only bullets I found to be reliable (Nielsen & yew tree) were not available in a factory offering and many friends and professionals mandated to use factory lead free complaining of grouping issues (especially when they start shooting 5+ shot groups) I started to develop a 'factory' round that would group well in 99% of rifles.

With the help of many people and under the wing of Specialist Rifle Services (Steve Bowers) I began the unfamiliar task of developing a load in multiple rifles simultaneously looking for universal accuracy nodes. A few £K later and some blood sweat and tears and the ammo is almost ready to hit the shops.

We've had some fantastic field testers using the ammo and 100's of deer later (almost 1000 now), I'd like to thank them all for their time, financial investment and commitment.

Now for some Beta tests. We'll be looking for some SD members to test our ammo at a reduced cost, I'll post the details at some point tomorrow, takers will be need to take 100 rounds (after checking the grouping in their rifle) in either:
.243 win
6.5x55
.270win
308 win

I look forward to meeting up with as many members as possible to test some of our ammo in as many rifles as possible recording the velocities and groups achieved.

I'm excited to offer UK manufactured cartridges shooting UK manufactured bullets (as well as some Danish ones)

Although it is possible to create custom loads for individual rifles to further hone the group size we've found that with our premium ammo we are yet to have a rifle group over moa and most much less. Our powder is weighed to+/-0.02gr we don't believe there is any other factory offering going to the lengths we are to ensure the consistency that we do. We're yet to find a rifle with a standard twist rate that doesn't like our ammo but with the help of SD members, if there is one, we'd like to find it.
Thank you for posting.
It's encouraging that you have invested so much in the project. I think I saw some of your ammunition used in 3 different rifles of indeterminate grade and condition. I was surprised all produced a 1" group with 5 shots at 100m.
 
Thanks all for your comments and your private messages.

It's likely that I will try and get around the entire country offering set dates in a few locations for people to meet with me and try before you buy.

I'm very busy with work at the moment but will get around to some photos. Our trusted alpha testers were not required to take photos of every kill but to note when the bullets slipped between the ribs hitting only intercostal muscle on entry as this is where we'd found other bullets fall down. We are actually hoping to use the enthusiasm and power of SD to get much greater resource of photos.

The yew trees have always fragmented and the Nielsens have never failed to expand, even at 1000fps in gel! You do not have to push them fast for them to do their job, that's why we are only offering these bullets in our cartridges. We chose reliable terminal ballistics over BC. A number of our field testers often cull at "extended range" (I hate that term) correct drop is easily adjusted for, getting used to the new wind calls takes focus but, most importantly, the bullet still does it's job when it gets there at a reduced velocity.

First to launch will be the:
.243 win 80.5gr YT (yew tree)
6.5x55 SE 120gr sonic hunter (Nielson)
.270 win 125gr sonic hunter
308 win 110gr Sonic hunter

So far all have proven tac drivers at normal stalking ranges, the 308win surprising us all with very, very low velocity spread in all of the rifles tested so far, the reduced recoil making it an excellent choice to be Scottish legal with minimal recoil and developed for 18" barrels.

shortly after will be:
6.5x55 SM 112gr YT (another excellent choice to be Scottish legal with minimal recoil)
308 win 145gr YT
7mmRM 130gr sonic hunter
300WM 150gr sonic hunter
 
That's very encouraging.

Thank you for posting.
It's encouraging that you have invested so much in the project. I think I saw some of your ammunition used in 3 different rifles of indeterminate grade and condition. I was surprised all produced a 1" group with 5 shots at 100m.
Thank you, it's not been easy and allot has been learnt. Some very sexy, colourful graphs have been created to get where we are now. I've certainly found it easier loading lead than lead free. We have also had to include timely, costly processes to shrink those groups where other manufacturers have opted to hit a price point.

I think that there will be innovations in barrels in the months & years to come. We are certainly keen to run a number of experiments and have some good initial results / theories playing out but a £7-8k rifle is an expensive solution.

I also think that with good lead bullets through good barrels allot of us got used to 1/2 and 1/4 moa accuracy which is seldom required. The low BC's can also mean a gusting wind starts to open things up beyond 250m which certainly can take getting used to if we were previously pushing dense high BC lead bullets.

I would never dispute the efficiency or lethality of lead but with the demand for factory lead free growing (even mandated for some of us) it was frustrating that we were not being served the quality I think we deserve.
 

terrier1

Well-Known Member
Looking to change to leadfree this year. And will not be buying any more lead. Price of lead free is high but getting hold of some is near impossible at the moment.
 

chaz243

Well-Known Member
Great news . I'm very interested in your 243 round CDs as I am about to embark on a head free test of nt own .Sauer 202 elegance normally shooting a 16 mm group with fed classic but times are a changing .cheers for your work peeps .👍
 

Liveonce

Well-Known Member
Made in the U.K. what’s not to like? However before use I would want confirmation of

Proof house tested?
Packaging number?
Product liability insurance?

Otherwise it is no different to using somebody else’s home loads, which we are all constantly advised not to do.

Good luck with the venture, a journey starts with a single step.
 
Top