Open ticket form

mwncidur

Well-Known Member
Anyone had any experience of filling this form in?
Should I just write the obvious or are they looking for more?

many thanks

Ian
 

EMcC

Well-Known Member
I didn't know there was a form to fill in to apply for an open ticket !
In the past I have written letters for people that I have accompanied over a period of time just stating that I have observed them over a certain period take x number of animals over various terrain and formed the opinion that they were competant to decide when and where it was safe to shoot etc etc.
They have then just submitted it with a request to have territorial restrictions lifted and that was it.
Obviously an amount of time and a few animals must have been taken to indicate that experiance has been gained.
 

tumbleweed

Well-Known Member
I didn't know there was a form to fill in to apply for an open ticket !
In the past I have written letters for people that I have accompanied over a period of time just stating that I have observed them over a certain period take x number of animals over various terrain and formed the opinion that they were competant to decide when and where it was safe to shoot etc etc.
They have then just submitted it with a request to have territorial restrictions lifted and that was it.
Obviously an amount of time and a few animals must have been taken to indicate that experiance has been gained.
. Never heard of such but that's all of these FLDs writing up what they want and not the requirements of the said Statutes of Law. I have mentioned on other threads that I never had any experience, no mentor as such but had a few permissions and because I had these permissions with deer on I asked for an FAC that would allow me to go anywhere for purchased days etc and they asked me to join a shooting club to gain experience and I told them that it was not prerequisite requirement to join any sort of club and that if I needed to take care of a pest/vermin/deer then I could not phone up my friend and ask him to help me as he would have been on his way to England or in his bed sleeping and that's why when they asked if I have somebody to show me what to do I told them I could not rely on waiting for someone to hold my hand. Why is it that most people requesting a FAC in Scotland do have a Go anywhere and not held by the hand Ticket and yet on this forum there have been loads n loads with criteria that can be very unworkable for most Shooters.
 

ChrisWill184

Well-Known Member
I just asked them to open it when I changed address. No problems. Didn't really explain why I needed it - just asked. This was on my first FAC held for 3 1/2 years and was done middle of last year.
 

8x57

Distinguished Member
Anyone had any experience of filling this form in?
Should I just write the obvious or are they looking for more?

many thanks

Ian
No doubt an unoficial form that has been produced internally by Dyfed Powys police for their own use. Scan it and send a copy to your shooting organisation firearms department for their opinion on the matter. I'm fairly sure I know what they will say Ian.
 

joed

Well-Known Member
I just asked for mine opened by letter just now, don't know the result....hopefully I don't get a form sent back to me asking it to be filled in!
 

kimh

Well-Known Member
mines in at the moment as a variation and request to open, no form just a letter attached to the variation form... will keep you updated
 

Twts

Well-Known Member
I posted a copy of this form when Dyfed - Powys started using them about a year ago, do a search on my posts and you'll soon find it. I think they are the only force using it, The form is pretty simple to fill in, covers most of the stuff you would write in a covering letter anyway, don't know the op's location but my FEO was really supportive of my application, if you need any help with it just pm me.
Regards - Twts
 

tumbleweed

Well-Known Member
Good one Twts of the offer to help others with the form, but why are these FLDs getting away with introducing their own forms, When I worked with a Govmnt Dept we could not just introduce a form that we wrote out as their would be consequences from the powers that be to kick us into touch. surely if there is enough noise made about all these issues through to shooting associations Sacs, Basc etc etc then maybe they will think twice about what they do in the future in their accountability to All and that includes us Shooters.
 

mwncidur

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the replies folks. Form is done and in with my variation. Have supporting letter to back it all up. Fingers crossed it comes through now.
Thanks for the offers of help too.
 

FGYT

Well-Known Member
Before heading off on one Whats does the form ask and are they trying to limit the Criteria for granting open
Or are they trying to be helpful and streamline the process so they can easily see all the info they need to say yes ????



Dorset as I put up a while back now say they will only accept a DSC2 as reason to open a ticket before 5yr renewal (rememebr it used to be 3yrs renewal) now that definatly isnt in the LAw
 

ravanelli

Well-Known Member
All
I have recently asked Essex police to amend my FAC to make it 'open'.
Took about 3 weeks as they are experiencing some delays, but today got it back with no restrictions, as in its 'an open ticket'. If anyone wants a copy of the letter I wrote please PM me with an email address.
Note: I am a serving Police Officer so know how these things work. Happy to help.....
Rav
 

Markfox

Well-Known Member
For all the people who have had there FAC opened up early , How long have you held your licence for ?
 

csl

Administrator
Site Staff
I posted a copy of this form when Dyfed - Powys started using them about a year ago, do a search on my posts and you'll soon find it. I think they are the only force using it, The form is pretty simple to fill in, covers most of the stuff you would write in a covering letter anyway, don't know the op's location but my FEO was really supportive of my application, if you need any help with it just pm me.
Regards - Twts
Here it is...

Open certificate request form!!!
 

Ray7756

Well-Known Member
I gave up my firearms etc before moving abroad and when i came back after a 10 year lapse i applied for rifles and sgotguns for vermin and deer on paid stalking and got it no probs , didnt ask for open but they gave me one anyway

surely if they are happy to give you a cert they believe you know how to use it safely
Cheers
Ray
 

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