I haven't changed the zero from my home loads that's why there generally higher
Reloading why did i bother ?
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Oh not windy either
Wonder if jimbo would like some targets for promotional purposes 
Have you got somebody else to shoot the rifle for you yet?
Me and my mates must be very lucky then. And if you look into the subject a bit you will find that I am right, it is a fairly well known fact in the precision rifle circuit.
Was the bipod still on when you had it on the bags? Does it get anywhere near the barrel when folded up?
Can you number the shots on the target so we can see the groups of three...where they three tight groups just going to different POI or where all random across the main group.
Just a change of hold can alter the POI. @dodgyknees posted a really interesting pair of targets shot by him and his wife with the same rifle, same ammo and same conditions one after the other, and they were two tight groups but to two different POI which was an interesting example.
I always use a target with five rings on it so that each group is clearly shown and the relative points of impact can be compared.
The Average POI of the large group and the two on the other target look similar, so going by the Fuller group diagnosis, maybe that is the group you, your rifle with that ammo is capable of.
I have seen a lot worse at the range...
Alan
Can you number the shots on the target so we can see the groups of three...where they three tight groups just going to different POI or where all random across the main group.
Just a change of hold can alter the POI. @dodgyknees posted a really interesting pair of targets shot by him and his wife with the same rifle, same ammo and same conditions one after the other, and they were two tight groups but to two different POI which was an interesting example.
I always use a target with five rings on it so that each group is clearly shown and the relative points of impact can be compared.
The Average POI of the large group and the two on the other target look similar, so going by the Fuller group diagnosis, maybe that is the group you, your rifle with that ammo is capable of.
I have seen a lot worse at the range...
Alan
Am I missing something? Second target is a two shot touching group shot without the mod and the only group you’ve shot without the mod?
I’d be shooting some more groups without the mod to find out if they were two lucky shots or whether the mod is causing accuracy to drop off.
I’d be shooting some more groups without the mod to find out if they were two lucky shots or whether the mod is causing accuracy to drop off.
Does Fuller's article not require an actual group (i.e. 10 or more shots) for analysis. The latest group on this thread seems to me to be an 11-round group shot on two targets, and is about 2". Not marvellous, but as Alan has, I too have seen worse.
This quotation from the article is useful:
The presence of three shots in a tight cluster in the centre of a group does not indicate a good rifle,
good ammunition or good shooting. It is mere chance and although such displays are constantly
occurring they should not mislead the marksman.
Save his pain and do somthing for me please:Wonder if jimbo would like some targets for promotional purposes
Print the below dot of doom free SD target and place at 100 yards. Then fire from any set-up you like, three shots from the your rifle as it arrives at the firing point. No warming shots etc. and from a dirty barrel if that's your thing.
🎯 The Famous SD Zeroing Targets
I've given them a sprucing up with new logo and text. The original files were dated from before the use of "weapon" became a little bit non-pc! ;) Edit: I've added @Apache's "Black Dot of Doom" and @Alantoo target too.
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Cheers
K
The first shot was top left .a dirty barrel is not my thing but trying different scenarios as trying to eliminate if the flyer was instigated by a just been cleaned barrelSave his pain and do somthing for me please:
Print the below dot of doom free SD target and place at 100 yards. Then fire from any set-up you like, three shots from the your rifle as it arrives at the firing point. No warming shots etc. and from a dirty barrel if that's your thing.
Then post on here indicating the first shot.🎯 The Famous SD Zeroing Targets
I've given them a sprucing up with new logo and text. The original files were dated from before the use of "weapon" became a little bit non-pc! ;) Edit: I've added @Apache's "Black Dot of Doom" and @Alantoo target too.
Cheers
K
Next two were in clover leaf fourth was in cloverleaf. Then they started to open up as barrel was getting hot
Thanks
No bipod attached but stock resting on bag
If the grouping is opening up when the rifle gets warm then something is making contact (or you’re getting fatigued / starting to flinch).
1. Shoot some groups letting the rifle totally cool in between each shot.
2. Get someone else to shoot some groups with your rifle
1. Shoot some groups letting the rifle totally cool in between each shot.
2. Get someone else to shoot some groups with your rifle
I wouldn't dream of calling into question your marksmanship but as another SD member very astutely observed, are you confident in ruling out the possibility "it is you that needs a chance to ‘warm up’ and not the rifle"?
K
And this just demonstrates the ever expanding variables when not actually being the nut behind the rifle in question. By which I mean did your mate first try a group with just the addition of a cheek peice for improved head to scope alignment before adjusting the parallex?
K
No, but I mentioned varying holds which can include the parallax effect with differing cheek welds.
Alan
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